From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: Grammar
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:00:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100728130043.GL26009@atos.labs.wmid.amu.edu.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <454323DC-B72C-4418-9B30-89C0E81DB634@uni-bonn.de>
Dnia Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:39:09AM +0200, Thomas A. Schmitz napisał(a):
>
> On Jul 28, 2010, at 11:29 AM, John Haltiwanger wrote:
>
> >On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Marcin Borkowski
> >>
> >>I am not sure that I understood your point, but I am quite convinced
> >>that the low percentage of women in mathematics or IT is caused
> >>primarily by the simple fact that an average female brain is not well
> >>fit for this particular purpose. (Of course, we all know notable
> >>exceptions. Also note that "better/worse fit for one particular
> >>purpose" is completely unrelated to "better/worse in general".)
> >
> >I'd laugh at this if it wasn't the same shit that's been going around
> >for years in the math/IT circles. Socialization is the cause behind
> >this, not natural differences in brain structure. If the society has
> >decided to accept and repeat this "fact" over and over, and men will
> >generally act as if it is true (pushing out females who make the
> >attempt), then it will come to "appear" as true. But that doesn't make
> >it any less BS.
>
> No no, I've seen excellent scientific research on this question. It
> was in a German periodical of 1938. The article explained why women
> can't do math. I also gave a rigorous demonstration that Poles are
> genetically inferior to Germans and can only be plumbers or thieves...
>
> But seriously: Marcin, I would recommend you stop posting on this. All
> you show is your complete lack of intellectual awareness. You're
> embarrassing yourself, and that's all.
Why? Only because I don't believe some claims I find to be highly
controversial? And BTW, where's the famous freedom of speech? I do not
claim that I have any research behind my opinion, but I claim that
neither have you. Any experiment in social science involves so many
factors that obtaining any certain results is imho nearly impossible.
And I do not find anything which would mean that women are "worse" than
men just because they are different. Of course, it might be the case
that I am just not right, but I don't think that being not right is
embarassing when you have no proofs in either direction.
In other words: I cannot imagine an experiment which might prove any of
us wrong on this subject, and I can see some hints which support your
claim and some which support mine.
Regards
--
Marcin Borkowski (http://mbork.pl)
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Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-26 16:23 Grammar Richard Stephens
2010-07-26 20:20 ` Grammar John Haltiwanger
2010-07-26 20:48 ` Grammar Khaled Hosny
2010-07-26 21:25 ` Grammar Hans Hagen
2010-07-27 8:47 ` Grammar Marcin Borkowski
2010-07-27 13:06 ` Grammar John Haltiwanger
2010-07-27 13:17 ` Grammar Hans Hagen
2010-07-27 13:24 ` Grammar luigi scarso
2010-07-27 13:26 ` Grammar Procházka Lukáš
2010-07-27 13:38 ` Grammar Taco Hoekwater
2010-07-27 15:16 ` Grammar Matija Šuklje
2010-07-27 15:28 ` Grammar Arthur Reutenauer
2010-07-27 15:38 ` Grammar Matija Šuklje
2010-07-27 13:31 ` Grammar Arthur Reutenauer
2010-07-27 14:12 ` Grammar John Haltiwanger
2010-07-27 15:04 ` Grammar Arthur Reutenauer
2010-07-27 14:10 ` Grammar David Rogers
2010-07-27 14:15 ` Grammar Hans Hagen
2010-07-27 16:33 ` Grammar David Rogers
2010-07-27 16:59 ` Grammar Matija Šuklje
2010-07-27 17:03 ` Grammar Taco Hoekwater
2010-07-27 15:27 ` Grammar Matija Šuklje
2010-07-27 17:08 ` Grammar John Haltiwanger
2010-07-27 23:10 ` Grammar Marcin Borkowski
2010-07-27 23:40 ` Grammar Hans Hagen
2010-07-28 9:28 ` Grammar Henning Hraban Ramm
2010-07-28 13:14 ` Grammar Alain Delmotte
2010-07-27 22:57 ` Grammar Marcin Borkowski
2010-07-28 5:00 ` Grammar David Rogers
2010-07-28 12:45 ` Grammar Marcin Borkowski
2010-07-28 9:29 ` Grammar John Haltiwanger
2010-07-28 9:39 ` Grammar Thomas A. Schmitz
2010-07-28 13:00 ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2010-07-28 13:12 ` Grammar Marcin Borkowski
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-07-24 22:50 Semantic data in ConTeXt? Matija Šuklje
2010-07-25 21:33 ` Matija Šuklje
2010-07-25 23:47 ` Grammar (was: Semantic data in ConTeXt?) David Rogers
2010-07-26 8:23 ` Matija Šuklje
2010-07-26 9:48 ` John Haltiwanger
2010-07-26 10:06 ` Grammar Hans Hagen
2010-07-26 10:20 ` Grammar luigi scarso
2010-07-26 11:56 ` Grammar Matija Šuklje
2010-07-26 12:38 ` Grammar Hans Hagen
2010-07-26 19:33 ` Grammar Martin Schröder
2010-07-26 20:44 ` Grammar Matija Šuklje
2010-07-27 16:53 ` Grammar (was: Semantic data in ConTeXt?) Rory Molinari
2010-07-27 23:12 ` Marcin Borkowski
2010-07-28 0:00 ` Grammar Hans Hagen
2010-07-28 9:33 ` Grammar John Haltiwanger
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