* metafun
@ 2010-10-20 12:03 Hans Hagen
2010-10-20 12:11 ` metafun Mojca Miklavec
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-10-20 12:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
At the context conference Taco presented a new initiative with respect
to manuals. For those who cannot (or don't want to) print and bind at
home we offer a printing on demand service. This week we send out the
first copies of the (new) metafun manual:
http://www.boekplan.nl/node/9
More will follow. We hope that this will (partially) answer the need for
manuals. We still have to find out which manuals (also new ones) should
become available as it takes a bit of effort to keep this flow running
and to turn manuals in some book-like form, so best keep an eye on the
site if you're interested.
Hans & Taco
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* Re: metafun
2010-10-20 12:03 metafun Hans Hagen
@ 2010-10-20 12:11 ` Mojca Miklavec
2010-10-20 12:23 ` metafun Martin Schröder
2010-10-20 12:49 ` metafun Vedran Miletić
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2010-10-20 12:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 14:03, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
> We still have to find out which manuals (also new ones) should
> become available
Offtopic: I would vote for TikZ manual (if author is still reachable).
Mojca
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* Re: metafun
2010-10-20 12:11 ` metafun Mojca Miklavec
@ 2010-10-20 12:23 ` Martin Schröder
2010-10-20 12:49 ` metafun Vedran Miletić
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From: Martin Schröder @ 2010-10-20 12:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2010/10/20 Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com>:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 14:03, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Offtopic: I would vote for TikZ manual (if author is still reachable).
You mean pgfmanual.pdf? That's free, so it shouldn't be a legal problem.
But it's a thick brick...
Best
Martin
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2010-10-20 12:11 ` metafun Mojca Miklavec
2010-10-20 12:23 ` metafun Martin Schröder
@ 2010-10-20 12:49 ` Vedran Miletić
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From: Vedran Miletić @ 2010-10-20 12:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2010/10/20 Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com>:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 14:03, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>> We still have to find out which manuals (also new ones) should
>> become available
>
> Offtopic: I would vote for TikZ manual (if author is still reachable).
>
> Mojca
He is, and he sometimes commits patches (even though most of the works
is done by Christian Feuersaenger). See this:
http://www.texample.net/tikz/
Off-topic: next release of TikZ/PGF is due very soon[1], so this
wouldn't be the right time to print manual for 2.0.
Regards,
--
Vedran Miletić
[1] http://bitbucket.org/rivanvx/beamer/issue/67/vertical-offset-of-slide-content-for-pages-1-with-current#comment-266195
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* Re: metafun
2010-10-20 12:03 metafun Hans Hagen
2010-10-20 12:11 ` metafun Mojca Miklavec
@ 2010-10-20 12:17 ` Taco Hoekwater
2010-10-20 13:45 ` metafun manual Alan BRASLAU
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2010-10-20 12:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 10/20/2010 02:03 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
> http://www.boekplan.nl/node/9
There is also an English website interface:
http://www.boekplan.com/node/9
Best wishes,
Taco
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* Re: metafun manual
2010-10-20 12:03 metafun Hans Hagen
2010-10-20 12:11 ` metafun Mojca Miklavec
2010-10-20 12:17 ` metafun Taco Hoekwater
@ 2010-10-20 13:45 ` Alan BRASLAU
2010-10-20 22:42 ` metafun Kevin D. Robbins
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2010-10-20 13:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wednesday 20 October 2010 14:03:03 Hans Hagen wrote:
>
> This week we send out the first copies of the (new) metafun manual:
Wow! Just in time for Christmas :)
Alan
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* Re: metafun
2010-10-20 12:03 metafun Hans Hagen
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2010-10-20 13:45 ` metafun manual Alan BRASLAU
@ 2010-10-20 22:42 ` Kevin D. Robbins
2010-10-21 7:10 ` metafun Hans Hagen
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From: Kevin D. Robbins @ 2010-10-20 22:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi Hans,
Is the new MetaFun manual available for download? The only PDFs I could find
of the MetaFun manual were dated to 2002.
Kevin
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:03 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> At the context conference Taco presented a new initiative with respect to
> manuals. For those who cannot (or don't want to) print and bind at home we
> offer a printing on demand service. This week we send out the first copies
> of the (new) metafun manual:
>
> http://www.boekplan.nl/node/9
>
> More will follow. We hope that this will (partially) answer the need for
> manuals. We still have to find out which manuals (also new ones) should
> become available as it takes a bit of effort to keep this flow running and
> to turn manuals in some book-like form, so best keep an eye on the site if
> you're interested.
>
> Hans & Taco
>
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* Re: metafun
2010-10-20 22:42 ` metafun Kevin D. Robbins
@ 2010-10-21 7:10 ` Hans Hagen
2010-10-22 14:06 ` metafun Taco Hoekwater
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-10-21 7:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 21-10-2010 12:42, Kevin D. Robbins wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> Is the new MetaFun manual available for download? The only PDFs I could find
> of the MetaFun manual were dated to 2002.
>
> Kevin
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:03 AM, Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
they will be online soon (also new screen version)
Hans
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* Re: metafun
2010-10-20 22:42 ` metafun Kevin D. Robbins
2010-10-21 7:10 ` metafun Hans Hagen
@ 2010-10-22 14:06 ` Taco Hoekwater
2010-10-22 14:20 ` metafun Hans Hagen
2010-10-23 10:49 ` metafun Alan BRASLAU
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2010-10-22 14:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 10/21/2010 12:42 AM, Kevin D. Robbins wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> Is the new MetaFun manual available for download? The only PDFs I could
> find of the MetaFun manual were dated to 2002.
The new version is on the web site now.
Best wishes,
Taco
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* Re: metafun
2010-10-22 14:06 ` metafun Taco Hoekwater
@ 2010-10-22 14:20 ` Hans Hagen
2010-10-22 14:22 ` metafun Taco Hoekwater
2010-10-22 15:12 ` metafun Wolfgang Schuster
2010-10-23 10:49 ` metafun Alan BRASLAU
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-10-22 14:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 22-10-2010 4:06, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> On 10/21/2010 12:42 AM, Kevin D. Robbins wrote:
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> Is the new MetaFun manual available for download? The only PDFs I could
>> find of the MetaFun manual were dated to 2002.
>
> The new version is on the web site now.
I wondered who would notice first -)
The screen version (no change in the interface) looks nice on an ipad.
Hans
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* Re: metafun
2010-10-22 14:20 ` metafun Hans Hagen
@ 2010-10-22 14:22 ` Taco Hoekwater
2010-10-22 15:29 ` metafun Otared Kavian
2010-10-22 16:09 ` metafun Kevin D. Robbins
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2010-10-22 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On 10/22/2010 04:20 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 22-10-2010 4:06, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>> On 10/21/2010 12:42 AM, Kevin D. Robbins wrote:
>>> Hi Hans,
>>>
>>> Is the new MetaFun manual available for download? The only PDFs I could
>>> find of the MetaFun manual were dated to 2002.
>>
>> The new version is on the web site now.
>
> I wondered who would notice first -)
I usually win such races because I have an hourly rsync running :)
Best wishes,
Taco
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* Re: metafun
2010-10-22 14:22 ` metafun Taco Hoekwater
@ 2010-10-22 15:29 ` Otared Kavian
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From: Otared Kavian @ 2010-10-22 15:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 22 oct. 2010, at 16:22, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> On 10/22/2010 04:20 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 22-10-2010 4:06, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>>> On 10/21/2010 12:42 AM, Kevin D. Robbins wrote:
>>>> Hi Hans,
>>>>
>>>> Is the new MetaFun manual available for download? The only PDFs I could
>>>> find of the MetaFun manual were dated to 2002.
>>>
>>> The new version is on the web site now.
>>
>> I wondered who would notice first -)
>
> I usually win such races because I have an hourly rsync running :)
>
> Best wishes,
> Taco
…so one has to visit the website very often :-)
By the way, I found that there is a new setup commands manual, in several languages (French, Italian among others):
http://www.pragma-ade.nl/show-man-10.htm
Best regards: OK
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* Re: metafun
2010-10-22 14:22 ` metafun Taco Hoekwater
2010-10-22 15:29 ` metafun Otared Kavian
@ 2010-10-22 16:09 ` Kevin D. Robbins
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Thanks! I'll grab it right now.
Kevin
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> wrote:
> On 10/22/2010 04:20 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> On 22-10-2010 4:06, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/21/2010 12:42 AM, Kevin D. Robbins wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Hans,
>>>>
>>>> Is the new MetaFun manual available for download? The only PDFs I could
>>>> find of the MetaFun manual were dated to 2002.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The new version is on the web site now.
>>>
>>
>> I wondered who would notice first -)
>>
>
> I usually win such races because I have an hourly rsync running :)
>
> Best wishes,
> Taco
>
>
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* Re: metafun
2010-10-22 14:20 ` metafun Hans Hagen
2010-10-22 14:22 ` metafun Taco Hoekwater
@ 2010-10-22 15:12 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2010-10-22 15:28 ` metafun Hans Hagen
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2010-10-22 15:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 22.10.2010 um 16:20 schrieb Hans Hagen:
> The screen version (no change in the interface) looks nice on an ipad.
Indeed, S6 is the perfect page size on the ipad but what happened with the randomized „MetaFun“ in the text?
Wolfgang
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* Re: metafun
2010-10-22 14:06 ` metafun Taco Hoekwater
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@ 2010-10-23 10:49 ` Alan BRASLAU
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2010-10-23 10:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Friday 22 October 2010 16:06:06 Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> On 10/21/2010 12:42 AM, Kevin D. Robbins wrote:
> > Hi Hans,
> >
> > Is the new MetaFun manual available for download? The only PDFs I could
> > find of the MetaFun manual were dated to 2002.
>
> The new version is on the web site now.
>
Hello everyone.
Today, I received the printed version of the new MetaFun manual. It is very
nice to have on hand.
Of course, I am also glad to now have the electronic version on my computer to
use as a working reference. But this does not replace reading the printed
version in order to discover the richness of possibilities that I do not yet
use.
Alan
For those who are not aware of the availability of the printed version, see:
http://www.boekplan.com/
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* Re: metafun manual
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@ 2004-08-31 8:00 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2004-08-31 8:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
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ishamid wrote:
>Stupid question;-)
>
>Can Metafun work with e-tex/aleph--dvipdfmx? As you know I am contemplating
>actually learning meta for the Arabic project...
>
>
it will work when some bug in dvipdfmx is solved (some interference
between direct code and cm matrices); i mailed about it with Chof cum
suis, and it's on the todo list .
>As far as topics are concerned, anything relavant to using MetaPost for a
>MetaType1 project would be most useful; maybe you should ask jacko this
>question?
>
>
that's quite a different topic; trikcy too since the metatype docu is
not finished
>PS. Hans, can u make sure this address escapes your spam filter?
>
>
i have no spam filter on my machine (only at the provider and some probably outdated one on the linux mail server)
Hans
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* metafun manual
@ 2004-08-30 16:42 Hans Hagen
2004-08-30 18:54 ` Willi Egger
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2004-08-30 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi,
I'm going to 'finish' the metafun manual, so if you have topics that
need to be covered ...
Hans
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* Re: metafun manual
2004-08-30 16:42 Hans Hagen
@ 2004-08-30 18:54 ` Willi Egger
2004-08-30 19:21 ` Re[2]: " Floris van Manen
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From: Willi Egger @ 2004-08-30 18:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi Hans,
that is great news! - Personally I do not have requests.
Willi
Hans Hagen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm going to 'finish' the metafun manual, so if you have topics that
> need to be covered ...
>
> Hans
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* Re[2]: metafun manual
2004-08-30 18:54 ` Willi Egger
@ 2004-08-30 19:21 ` Floris van Manen
2004-08-30 19:37 ` Brooks Moses
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From: Floris van Manen @ 2004-08-30 19:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
>> I'm going to 'finish' the metafun manual, so if you have topics that
>> need to be covered ...
the topic as how to define and use user defined functions / macros / procedure
could have some more explanation / samples.
also a suggested way as how to handle and use the definition of
multiple (different) graphics within a single file could be helpful.
e.g. where to put the graphics definitions. how to re-use pieces of
graphics for other images (like axis frames).
//f
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* Re: metafun manual
2004-08-30 19:21 ` Re[2]: " Floris van Manen
@ 2004-08-30 19:37 ` Brooks Moses
2004-08-31 2:25 ` Jojo
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From: Brooks Moses @ 2004-08-30 19:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 09:21:29PM +0200, Floris van Manen wrote:
> >> I'm going to 'finish' the metafun manual, so if you have topics that
> >> need to be covered ...
If you'd like volunteers to proofread the finished version, I'd be glad
to help with that.
My main request is the addition of an index, but I presume that was
already on the to-do list.
> the topic as how to define and use user defined functions / macros / procedure
> could have some more explanation / samples.
This might indeed be helpful, if the metafun manual is intended as a
complete guide to both metapost and metafun (replacing the old metapost
manual). My recollection is that the manual has very little (if any) on
how to use suffix variables, and it would be nice to have a good
overview of that somewhere other than the metafont (!) manual.
> also a suggested way as how to handle and use the definition of
> multiple (different) graphics within a single file could be helpful.
> e.g. where to put the graphics definitions. how to re-use pieces of
> graphics for other images (like axis frames).
Agreed, although that's actually fairly simple (which is probably an
argument _for_ including it, rather than against).
- Brooks
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* Re: metafun manual
2004-08-30 19:37 ` Brooks Moses
@ 2004-08-31 2:25 ` Jojo
2004-08-31 8:25 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Jojo @ 2004-08-31 2:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
+++ Brooks Moses [30/08/04 12:37 -0700]:
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 09:21:29PM +0200, Floris van Manen wrote:
> > >> I'm going to 'finish' the metafun manual, so if you have topics that
> > >> need to be covered ...
That's Great !!
>
> If you'd like volunteers to proofread the finished version, I'd be glad
> to help with that.
Would you plan to release a Chinese version? I am glad to be a volunteer translate for that.
>
> My main request is the addition of an index, but I presume that was
> already on the to-do list.
>
> > the topic as how to define and use user defined functions / macros / procedure
> > could have some more explanation / samples.
>
> This might indeed be helpful, if the metafun manual is intended as a
> complete guide to both metapost and metafun (replacing the old metapost
> manual). My recollection is that the manual has very little (if any) on
> how to use suffix variables, and it would be nice to have a good
> overview of that somewhere other than the metafont (!) manual.
>
> > also a suggested way as how to handle and use the definition of
> > multiple (different) graphics within a single file could be helpful.
> > e.g. where to put the graphics definitions. how to re-use pieces of
> > graphics for other images (like axis frames).
>
> Agreed, although that's actually fairly simple (which is probably an
> argument _for_ including it, rather than against).
>
> - Brooks
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Best Rgds,
Jojo
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* Re: Re: metafun manual
2004-08-31 2:25 ` Jojo
@ 2004-08-31 8:25 ` Hans Hagen
2004-09-01 2:15 ` Jojo
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2004-08-31 8:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
Jojo wrote:
>Would you plan to release a Chinese version? I am glad to be a volunteer translate for that.
>
>
could be a challenge, remind me later (once the source code of the manual is stable translation should be no problem)
Hans
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* Re: metafun manual
@ 2000-09-27 12:01 Joop Susan
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From: Joop Susan @ 2000-09-27 12:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ntg-context
> At 08:25 PM 9/25/00 +0200, Joop Susan wrote:
>
> >Ok. I only used 'fmtutil -all' after every ConTEXt/pdftex update. Better
> >to use 'texexec'?
>
> fmtutil does not handle mp mem files, probably because there are not so
> many metapost formats
>
> >> >Can you tell me why texexec cannot get this right in one run?
>
> Context can if you enable runtime graphics : enable write 18 in texmf.cnf
> and add the right switches to your local cont-sys.tex file (explained in
> metafun manual).
>
This was enabled. In file texmf.cnf it said:
% Enable system commands via \write18{...}?
%shell_escape = f
shell_escape = t
The testfile "test.tex":
\starttext
\immediate\write18{echo It works}
\stoptext
prints "It works" when processing the file with 'texexec --once test',
like it says in the Metafun manual.
The other settings '\runMPgraphicstrue' and '\recycleMPslotstrue' are set
in the virgin 'cont-sys.rme' from the distribution. It was not clear to me
that I had to create 'cont-sys.tex' myself, since there was a very
similarly named file already. I copied 'cont-sys.rme' to 'cont-sys.tex')
and now it works in one run.
Thanks,
Joop
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* Re: metafun manual
@ 2000-09-25 18:25 ` Joop Susan
2000-09-25 21:56 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Joop Susan @ 2000-09-25 18:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ntg-context
Hallo,
> >'texexec test1' complains:
> >
> >Randomizer initialized to 949889678.
> >figures : figure mpgraph can not be found
> >[1.1{/usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map}]
> >.........
> >Sorry, I can't find the mem file `metafun.mem'; will try `mpost.mem'.
> >(mpgraph.mp )
> >Transcript written on mpgraph.log.
> >
> >mpgraph.log says:
>
> texexec --make --alone metafun
>
> will make you a metafun format (check if the mem is moved to the right
> web2c path and run mktexlsr)
Ok. I only used 'fmtutil -all' after every ConTEXt/pdftex update. Better
to use 'texexec'?
The file is created in the current directory and I moved it to
/usr/share/texmf/web2c. After 'mktexlsr' the file is now found.
> >This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.3.1) (mem=mpost 2000.4.26) 26
> >APR 2000 18:56
> >**&metafun mpgraph
> >(mpgraph.mp )
No change. 'mpost mpgraph.mp' later also writes to this file.
This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.3.1) (mem=mpost 2000.4.26) 26
APR 2000 18:56
**mpgraph.mp
(mpgraph.mp
{randomseed:=222}
(/usr/share/texmf/metapost/context/mp-tool.mp)
(/usr/share/texmf/metapost/context/mp-spec.mp)
(/usr/share/texmf/metapost/context/mp-page.mp)
(/usr/share/texmf/metapost/context/mp-core.mp) [1] [2] [3] )
3 output files written: mpgraph.1 .. mpgraph.3
> >
> >'mpost mpgraph.mp' does generate mpgraph.1.
> >'gv mpgraph.1' shows the correct figure.
> >A second run 'texexec test1' now generates a complete PDF file.
> >
> >Can you tell me why texexec cannot get this right in one run?
>
> Normally it generates the graphic runtime, in which case one run is needed.
> Otherwise it will run mp between runs, but it does not parse all mp files
> for changes. So, then you may need a second run.
Is there any way of automatically detecting this situation.
Or does this mean that the only sure automated way to get a complete
guaranteed up-to-date PDF file is to run:
rm -f test1.tui test1.tuo test1.tmp test1.top
rm -f mpgraph.[0-9]* mpgraph.mp mpgraph.log tmpgraph.* cont-opt.bak
texexec --pdf test1
mpost mpgraph.mp
texexec --pdf test1
Would it be safe to specify 'texexec --pdf --once test1' for the second
run given that the temp-files are now all up-to-date? It seems to work for
my current testfile. Specifying '--once' for the first run makes the
'mpost' fail.
The first run is also necessary when arranging pages. So I could add
'--noarrange' there as well, right?
This is the brute force solution, possibly at the expence of extra
processing time. Is this a bullet-proof final run?
Thanks,
Joop
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* Re: metafun manual
2000-09-25 18:25 ` Joop Susan
@ 2000-09-25 21:56 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2000-09-25 21:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ntg-context
At 08:25 PM 9/25/00 +0200, Joop Susan wrote:
>Ok. I only used 'fmtutil -all' after every ConTEXt/pdftex update. Better
>to use 'texexec'?
fmtutil does not handle mp mem files, probably because there are not so
many metapost formats
>> >Can you tell me why texexec cannot get this right in one run?
Context can if you enable runtime graphics : enable write 18 in texmf.cnf
and add the right switches to your local cont-sys.tex file (explained in
metafun manual).
>Is there any way of automatically detecting this situation.
very hard, but i'm thinking of one.
>Or does this mean that the only sure automated way to get a complete
>guaranteed up-to-date PDF file is to run:
>
>rm -f test1.tui test1.tuo test1.tmp test1.top
>rm -f mpgraph.[0-9]* mpgraph.mp mpgraph.log tmpgraph.* cont-opt.bak
>texexec --pdf test1
>mpost mpgraph.mp
>texexec --pdf test1
no, just enable run time generation, which is what I here, really: no
problems at all
>This is the brute force solution, possibly at the expence of extra
>processing time. Is this a bullet-proof final run?
as said, run time generated graphics are the best; fabrice popineau will
look into fast mpost launching in web2c, so that will speed up the process.
Hans
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* Re: metafun manual
@ 2000-09-25 11:47 ` Joop Susan
2000-09-25 15:22 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Joop Susan @ 2000-09-25 11:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hallo Hans,
In the newest metafun-s.pdf om page 231:
----------
\startMPcode
draw btex Meta is a female lion! etex
xysized (\the\textwidth,\the\textheight) ;
\stopbuffer
----------
I assume that should probably be \stopMPcode.
The following does work for me (with a few hurdles):
----------
% output=pdf
\starttext
\startMPenvironment[reset]
\setupbodyfont[pos]
\stopMPenvironment
\startMPcode
draw btex Meta is a female lion! etex
xysized (\the\textwidth,\the\textheight) ;
\stopMPcode
\stoptext
-----------
'texexec test1' complains:
Randomizer initialized to 949889678.
figures : figure mpgraph can not be found
[1.1{/usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map}]
.........
Sorry, I can't find the mem file `metafun.mem'; will try `mpost.mem'.
(mpgraph.mp )
Transcript written on mpgraph.log.
mpgraph.log says:
This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.3.1) (mem=mpost 2000.4.26) 26
APR 2000 18:56
**&metafun mpgraph
(mpgraph.mp )
'mpost mpgraph.mp' does generate mpgraph.1.
'gv mpgraph.1' shows the correct figure.
A second run 'texexec test1' now generates a complete PDF file.
Can you tell me why texexec cannot get this right in one run?
My system:
Linux, tetex-1.0.7 with updated pdftex and context.
pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-14f-released-20000525-2.1 (Web2C 7.3.2x)
ConTeXt ver: 2000.9.21 fmt: 2000.9.25 int: english mes: english
Joop
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* Re: metafun manual
2000-09-25 11:47 ` Joop Susan
@ 2000-09-25 15:22 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2000-09-25 15:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ntg-context
At 01:47 PM 9/25/00 +0200, Joop Susan wrote:
>
>Hallo Hans,
>
>In the newest metafun-s.pdf om page 231:
>
>----------
>\startMPcode
>draw btex Meta is a female lion! etex
>xysized (\the\textwidth,\the\textheight) ;
>\stopbuffer
>----------
>
>I assume that should probably be \stopMPcode.
I'll change it!
>The following does work for me (with a few hurdles):
>
>----------
>% output=pdf
>\starttext
>\startMPenvironment[reset]
> \setupbodyfont[pos]
>\stopMPenvironment
>\startMPcode
> draw btex Meta is a female lion! etex
> xysized (\the\textwidth,\the\textheight) ;
>\stopMPcode
>\stoptext
>-----------
>
>'texexec test1' complains:
>
>Randomizer initialized to 949889678.
>figures : figure mpgraph can not be found
>[1.1{/usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map}]
>.........
>Sorry, I can't find the mem file `metafun.mem'; will try `mpost.mem'.
>(mpgraph.mp )
>Transcript written on mpgraph.log.
>
>mpgraph.log says:
texexec --make --alone metafun
will make you a metafun format (check if the mem is moved to the right
web2c path and run mktexlsr)
>This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.3.1) (mem=mpost 2000.4.26) 26
>APR 2000 18:56
>**&metafun mpgraph
>(mpgraph.mp )
>
>'mpost mpgraph.mp' does generate mpgraph.1.
>'gv mpgraph.1' shows the correct figure.
>A second run 'texexec test1' now generates a complete PDF file.
>
>Can you tell me why texexec cannot get this right in one run?
Normally it generates the graphic runtime, in which case one run is needed.
Otherwise it will run mp between runs, but it does not parse all mp files
for changes. So, then you may need a second run.
Hans
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