From: Khaled Hosny <khaledhosny@eglug.org>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: transliteration russian
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 20:47:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101031184720.GB21894@khaled-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <iakbi5$p4f$1@dough.gmane.org>
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 07:12:20PM +0100, Jano Kula wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On 10/30/2010 11:34 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> >On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:17:11AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> >>On 30-10-2010 12:05, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> >>>On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:25:20PM +0200, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> >>>>By far the easiest and most portable solution would be if you could
> >>>>convince Taco to implement something like "latin a is equivalent to
> >>>>cyrillic a as far as hyphenation is concerned" (which could also solve
> >>>>many other problems that we have). Actually, you can already do that
> >>>>by redefining \lccode of latin a to point to cyrillic a (and do that
> >>>>for the whole alphabet), but then you need to make sure that you don't
> >>>>use any commands for lowercasing/uppercasing words. If you need
> >>>>details, I can help you out, but first exact transliteration rules are
> >>>>needed.
> >>>
> >>>I was thinking, since using \lccode for hyphenation is really a wired
> >>>choice (I'm sure don has a good reason back then, but such things are
> >>>usually no longer relevant), and since it is used in a sort of
> >>>controlled environment (playing with \lccode's for hyphenation is not
> >>>ever one's toy), may be luatex can break the backward compatibility in
> >>>the hyphenation area and have a dedicated new code, \hycode or
> >>>something, only for hyphenation purposes (may be backward compatibility
> >>>can be kept by using it in addition to \lccode, maybe).
> >>>
> >>>What do you think?
> >>
> >>just any letter (catcode letter) would do and the rest is to be
> >>controlled by the patterns
> >
> >The issue here is that we want to make some character equivalent to each
> >other, e.g. ' and ’ which are needed for some languages, without the
> >need to duplicate the patterns.
>
> Before jumping too deep to the subject, consider if it really worth
> an effort. There is not much more then, titles written in the
> transliterated text. No continuous reading.
It not about the problem in this thread specifically, but rather another
issue that were brought recently in xetex mailing list; basically if one
is using the curly apostrophe (’) all hyphenation patterns depends on the
ASCII one (') will not be taken into account.
Regards,
Khaled
--
Khaled Hosny
Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team
Free font developer
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-10-31 18:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-29 11:18 Steffen Wolfrum
2010-10-29 11:58 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2010-10-29 13:44 ` Jano Kula
2010-10-29 21:25 ` Mojca Miklavec
2010-10-29 22:05 ` Khaled Hosny
2010-10-30 8:17 ` Hans Hagen
2010-10-30 8:34 ` Taco Hoekwater
2010-10-30 9:34 ` Khaled Hosny
2010-10-31 18:12 ` Jano Kula
2010-10-31 18:47 ` Khaled Hosny [this message]
2010-10-29 22:15 ` Andrzej Orłowski-Skoczyk
2010-10-29 22:31 ` Mojca Miklavec
2010-10-30 14:24 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2010-10-29 22:47 ` Philipp Gesang
2010-10-29 23:06 ` Andrzej Orłowski-Skoczyk
2010-10-30 9:43 ` Philipp Gesang
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