* \quote
@ 2010-11-04 11:47 Herbert Voss
2010-11-04 11:59 ` \quote Alan BRASLAU
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From: Herbert Voss @ 2010-11-04 11:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
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the documation says, that \quote gives a single quote.
Why do I get a double one for french?
\starttext
\language[nl]\quote{Nederlandse},
\language[en]\quote{English},
\language[de]\quote{Deutsch} oder
\language[fr]\quote{Fran\cc ais}.
\stoptext
mkiv/TeXLive2010
Herbert
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* Re: \quote
2010-11-04 11:47 \quote Herbert Voss
@ 2010-11-04 11:59 ` Alan BRASLAU
2010-11-04 12:20 ` \quote Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2010-11-04 11:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Thursday 04 November 2010 12:47:44 Herbert Voss wrote:
> the documation says, that \quote gives a single quote.
> Why do I get a double one for french?
>
> \starttext
> \language[nl]\quote{Nederlandse},
> \language[en]\quote{English},
> \language[de]\quote{Deutsch} oder
> \language[fr]\quote{Fran\cc ais}.
> \stoptext
>
> mkiv/TeXLive2010
>
> Herbert
I do not know what is the correct usage in French,
but single guillemets do exist in unicode:
$ unicode guillemet
U+00AB LEFT-POINTING DOUBLE ANGLE QUOTATION MARK
UTF-8: c2 ab UTF-16BE: 00ab Decimal: «
«
Category: Pi (Punctuation, Initial quote)
Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals)
Character is mirrored
U+00BB RIGHT-POINTING DOUBLE ANGLE QUOTATION MARK
UTF-8: c2 bb UTF-16BE: 00bb Decimal: »
»
Category: Pf (Punctuation, Final quote)
Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals)
Character is mirrored
U+2039 SINGLE LEFT-POINTING ANGLE QUOTATION MARK
UTF-8: e2 80 b9 UTF-16BE: 2039 Decimal: ‹
‹
Category: Pi (Punctuation, Initial quote)
Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals)
Character is mirrored
U+203A SINGLE RIGHT-POINTING ANGLE QUOTATION MARK
UTF-8: e2 80 ba UTF-16BE: 203a Decimal: ›
›
Category: Pf (Punctuation, Final quote)
Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals)
Character is mirrored
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* Re: \quote
2010-11-04 11:59 ` \quote Alan BRASLAU
@ 2010-11-04 12:20 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2010-11-04 13:57 ` \quote Khaled Hosny
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2010-11-04 12:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Nov 4, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> On Thursday 04 November 2010 12:47:44 Herbert Voss wrote:
>> the documation says, that \quote gives a single quote.
>> Why do I get a double one for french?
>>
>> \starttext
>> \language[nl]\quote{Nederlandse},
>> \language[en]\quote{English},
>> \language[de]\quote{Deutsch} oder
>> \language[fr]\quote{Fran\cc ais}.
>> \stoptext
>>
>> mkiv/TeXLive2010
>>
>> Herbert
>
> I do not know what is the correct usage in French,
> but single guillemets do exist in unicode:
I'm too lazy to look it up now, but most French books I read have double guillemets «» at the outer level and double quotes “” at the inner level. The definitions are in lang-ita.tex, and they do indeed define double guillemet for both quotation and quote:
\installlanguage
[\s!fr]
[\c!leftquote=\leftguillemot,
\c!rightquote=\rightguillemot,
\c!leftquotation=\leftguillemot,
\c!rightquotation=\rightguillemot]
This looks wrong to me, but it's something French users must discuss. As for the OP: you can set up any symbol you like, e.g.
\setuplanguage[fr]
[leftquote=\upperleftdoublesixquote,
rightquote=\upperrightdoubleninequote,
leftquotation=\leftguillemot,
rightquotation=\rightguillemot]
which is explained in chapter 7.3 of the manual. Btw, don't use something like \cc in mkiv, prefer proper Unicode characters.
Thomas
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2010-11-04 12:20 ` \quote Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2010-11-04 13:57 ` Khaled Hosny
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From: Khaled Hosny @ 2010-11-04 13:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 01:20:48PM +0100, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> which is explained in chapter 7.3 of the manual. Btw, don't use something like \cc in mkiv, prefer proper Unicode characters.
IINM, \cc and similar control sequences in MkIV will just insert the
proper Unicode character.
Regards,
Khaled
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Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team
Free font developer
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