From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/63904 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan BRASLAU Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: \starttable ... \stoptable III Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:16:22 +0100 Organization: CEA DSM-IRAMIS-SPEC Message-ID: <201011251116.22366.alan.braslau@cea.fr> References: <4CED5057.2070504@FU-Berlin.DE> <201011241920.12774.alan.braslau@cea.fr> <4CEE2323.1030006@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1290680231 11232 80.91.229.12 (25 Nov 2010 10:17:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 10:17:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ntg-context@ntg.nl To: Hans Hagen Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Nov 25 11:17:07 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PLYt0-0000OP-1z for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:17:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077CBCA87F; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:17:03 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id rK2rCDU3dhtj; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:16:59 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCBD9CA87B; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:16:59 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D610CA87B for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:16:58 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id pCSBN63c+9r3 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:16:46 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter4-til.mf.surf.net (filter4-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.220]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A97CA87A for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:16:46 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from sainfoin-out.extra.cea.fr (sainfoin-out.extra.cea.fr [132.166.172.107]) by filter4-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id oAPAGjTC003490 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:16:46 +0100 Original-Received: from epeire1.extra.cea.fr (epeire1.extra.cea.fr [132.167.198.31]) by sainfoin.extra.cea.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/CEAnet-Internet-out-2.0) with ESMTP id oAPAGiOu031907 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:16:44 +0100 Original-Received: from orpin2.extra.cea.fr (orpin2.extra.cea.fr [132.167.198.5]) by epeire1.extra.cea.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id oAPAGirM006981; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:16:44 +0100 (envelope-from alan.braslau@cea.fr) Original-Received: from iram-ha-003840.localnet (iram-ha-003840.extra.cea.fr [132.166.25.152]) by orpin2.extra.cea.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.1) with ESMTP id oAPAGihR023273; Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:16:44 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.32; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <4CEE2323.1030006@wxs.nl> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=132.166.172.107; country=FR; region=A3; city=Gif-sur-yvette; latitude=48.6833; longitude=2.1333; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=48.6833,2.1333&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 05DzmgJVV - b5e735568b38 - 20101125 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.220 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:63904 Archived-At: On Thursday 25 November 2010 09:49:39 Hans Hagen wrote: > On 24-11-2010 7:20, Alan BRASLAU wrote: > > On Wednesday 24 November 2010 19:06:19 Hans Hagen wrote: > >> ok, thanks for testing it ... I'm stripping that old code so bugs can > >> creep in; I'm also considering removing the CL and such > > > > \CL[color] % colored line > > \BL[number_cells] % grey background ("BL" = ?) > > > > They are useful. What should replace them? > > tabulate and bTABLE > > if colors shows up again in table then it's as in tabulate now but i > need some strong motivation for that > The logic behind table (tables, and tabulate) differs greatly from that of bTABLE. Their use is different and one may be more "natural" than the other, depending on one's point of view. Both mechanisms have their legitimate place in ConTeXt. I see that tabulate is "recommended" (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Tables_Overview) and that table and tables are "deprecated". I suppose that this is due to an internal re-write. What remains to be implemented in tabulate in order to fully replace table and tables? According to the wiki: vertical lines. The wiki is out-of-date, however, for in mkiv \VL is "% present but not yet 100% ok" So if tabulate is indeed to replace table and tables, perhaps they should be "eliminated". For backward compatibility, perhaps starttable and starttables could be synonymes for starttabulate? Or perhaps I am missing something. Alan ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________