From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/65268 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Khaled Hosny Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: ConTeXt does not execute MetaPost (in debian experimental) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 23:29:18 +0200 Message-ID: <20110114212918.GA16779@khaled-laptop> References: <4D2B4B34.4040306@nibua-r.org> <4D2B51A2.7090600@nibua-r.org> <20110111050011.GE18818@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> <20110112011544.GA11967@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1295040677 18582 80.91.229.12 (14 Jan 2011 21:31:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 21:31:17 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Jan 14 22:31:12 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PdrEl-0002dM-Em for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:31:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D44CAA14; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:31:10 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 2jl76l9Rbpw0; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:31:08 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184CACA9B8; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:31:08 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED92CA9B8 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:31:06 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id TiI25wwRkmlb for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:30:55 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter1-til.mf.surf.net (filter1-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.217]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FDECCA973 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:30:55 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f41.google.com (mail-fx0-f41.google.com [209.85.161.41]) by filter1-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id p0ELUsVi030701 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:30:54 +0100 Original-Received: by fxm12 with SMTP id 12so3217310fxm.14 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:30:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=bPV2ghPmX6lSWOSd5G9icDsRLlRQX6XBoh1Ps6kIXh8=; b=AKZ1DOJoHUKA/Mr99DqHzC7g/MMmYYWKG9JZZkQAZtYoj7DB2Mqh9jrWCZZhuo5cLO vBsU7kBUCrLsEAezUt71XJrzN0/pCqQh6SNrH6tRuEKpqAtNnsQyHp5Wn8yOe5EFiVVf CFRUzRThhMa50B6zDrMVNuBZps0JKQYmgNzsg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=KlEdohiiR9j13DtPCMlbYxpxr3dSYDI63iLeVWuaC8JrNkZRBPjRAEbZBU0q3fwWHg DFnnsYB2f3HdjByHFomi4nbJxI2XG1a/isf6PZrkXZEAba0kL0+ScNPbNADH+kraqXCX v2PivY0iGDMrV1l0YVKiHVD+WbWqe1dpMhYuI= Original-Received: by 10.223.101.134 with SMTP id c6mr1285706fao.12.1295040654014; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:30:54 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost ([197.193.43.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a2sm659155faw.22.2011.01.14.13.30.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:30:53 -0800 (PST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.5 (Score 0, tokens from: ) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.85.161.41; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 08DTxuSG4 - a105a60b7ab6 - 20110114 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.217 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:65268 Archived-At: On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 09:57:32PM +0100, Jonas Stein wrote: > >> In that case one should better run mtxrun instead of luatools (they > >> are equivalent at the moment, but luatools is becomming obsolete). > > > > Ahhh ... I guess that needs some divine inspiration to know ... > > > >> And yes, texmfcnf.lua should be carefully designed to match the > >> structure of texmf trees in debian. > > > > Of course, looking into it I graasped that now. > > > > Why on earth can mtxrun not simply load the main texmf.cnf like > > any other program in the TeX world and initialize the values from > > there I ask myself. > > > > I am slowly giving up on ConTeXt. It is changing in arbitrary directions > > far too often, and still things like multi-user support are not > > here since ages. I know, it is primary Hans' system and it has to > > work primarily on his computer, but that means that distributing > > it within any distribution system is plain pain :-( > > > > All that of course relates only to MkIV. I guess I will just add > > one sentence to the README.Debian: > > MkIV is not suppored on Debian. If you know how to set it > > up you can do it yourself and educate the maintainer, > > otherwise simply use MkII or the ConTeXt minimals. > > Its so sad to read this but no other reply on this thread till now. > As far i have looked into the .deb packages the bug should be in the > current stable versions too. > > The ideas behind context are so nice and could save us from so > much latex-pain. If there are no context-packages, that work > out of the box it will be a project for developers. > Developers are known to code and not to write documentation... Use MkII it is tried, documented and stable. It is unfair to complain about something as " changing in arbitrary directions" when it is declared "beta" and "ever evolving" with big red letters every where :) > Is there any hope that context will become a replacement of latex? I don't think this have been a goal. Regards, Khaled -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team Free font developer ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________