From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/65578 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Culleton Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Comment on new "Page Design" Chapter for new manual. Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:41:36 -0500 Organization: Wexford Press Message-ID: <201101271741.36502.john@wexfordpress.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1296168013 16478 80.91.229.12 (27 Jan 2011 22:40:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:40:13 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Jan 27 23:40:09 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PiaVc-0001hW-QB for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:40:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E37E2CAADA; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:40:07 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id r-U--cjw6uKN; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:40:04 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C11CAA32; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:40:04 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 226F0CAA32 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:40:03 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id G9fF6PLssjtx for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:39:51 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (filter3-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.71]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E09CAA15 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:39:51 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id p0RMdmVu017761 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:39:50 +0100 Original-Received: from omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0ma81g0050SCNGk56mfoJW; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:39:48 +0000 Original-Received: from sdb4.localnet ([68.50.233.152]) by omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0mfn1g01C3HwwZ83Vmfoqj; Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:39:48 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.4 (Linux/2.6.29.6-smp; KDE/4.2.4; i686; ; ) Content-Disposition: inline X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=76.96.62.56; country=US; latitude=38.0000; longitude=-97.0000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=38.0000,-97.0000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0cE0KDNjq - 6d724a0de4b6 - 20110127 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.71 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:65578 Archived-At: The question of page dimensions can be very confusing for the raw beginner. I suggest the something like the following as a lead in: ----------------------------------------------------------- For a printed page we really have to deal with three different sets of dimensions. The body of the text exclusive of headers, footers etc. is called the type block. In TeX the measurements of the type block are called \hsize and \vsize. When text is being laid out each paragraph is generally no wider than the \hsize and when \vsize is exceeded the page is ended and a new one is started. The actual page size of the finished document is measured with \pdfpagewidth and \pdfpageheight. For most documents this is the last set of dimensions needed. In a few cases "camera ready copy" is required which means that the final printed page image is centered on a larger piece of paper stock, often with trim marks indicating the boundaries of the page size. For example here are the dimensions for a book recently printed: hsize =4.25 in vsize =7 in pdfpagewidth = 6 in pdfpageheight = 9 in stockwidth = 8.5 in stockheight = 11 in. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The terminology may need some refinement but you get the idea. Think of the "Man from Mars" encountering Context and even TeX for the first time. -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus: http://www.booklocker.com/p/books/4055.html Typesetting and indexing http://wexfordpress.com book sales http://wexfordpress.net Free barcode: http://www.tux.org/~milgram/bookland/ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________