From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/65716 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan BRASLAU Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: beta Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:40:03 +0100 Organization: CEA DSM-IRAMIS-SPEC Message-ID: <201102011140.03813.alan.braslau@cea.fr> References: <4D46E824.2040505@wxs.nl> <4D47C794.1020205@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1296556854 17051 80.91.229.12 (1 Feb 2011 10:40:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:40:54 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Feb 01 11:40:47 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PkDfC-0001eY-FF for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2011 11:40:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E259FCA9EC; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:40:45 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id C1FSejQHOU+O; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:40:42 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D588CA95C; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:40:42 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5520ECA95C for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:40:40 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29KLN8mPlR+g for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:40:38 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter2-til.mf.surf.net (filter2-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.218]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6D8CA952 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:40:38 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from cirse-out.extra.cea.fr (cirse-out.extra.cea.fr [132.166.172.106]) by filter2-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id p11Aea42002715 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:40:37 +0100 Original-Received: from epeire2.extra.cea.fr (epeire2.extra.cea.fr [132.167.198.32]) by cirse.extra.cea.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/CEAnet-Internet-out-2.0) with ESMTP id p11AeaKY004079 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:40:36 +0100 Original-Received: from orpin2.extra.cea.fr (orpin2.extra.cea.fr [132.167.198.5]) by epeire2.extra.cea.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p11AeacC008515 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:40:36 +0100 (envelope-from alan.braslau@cea.fr) Original-Received: from iram-ha-003840.localnet (iram-ha-003840.extra.cea.fr [132.166.25.152]) by orpin2.extra.cea.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.1) with ESMTP id p11AeaCY006225 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:40:36 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.32; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <4D47C794.1020205@wxs.nl> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=132.166.172.106; country=FR; region=A3; city=Gif-sur-yvette; latitude=48.6833; longitude=2.1333; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=48.6833,2.1333&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0bE2yEBJ5 - a036dbb3b222 - 20110201 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.218 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:65716 Archived-At: My update proceedure systematically maintains a previous, presumably working, copy of the minimals. For this, I run a script: #!/bin/sh cd /usr/local/context cd beta echo "*** move current to previous ***" rsync -av --delete --progress . ../previous echo "*** update beta ***" rsync -ptv --progress rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/first-setup.sh . ./first-setup.sh --extras=all | tee first-setup.log This way I limit problems while still working with the latest, greatest beta version of ConTeXt. When things go wrong with the update, I simply move "beta" to "new" (or something else) and "previous" to "beta", my PATH being set to use "beta". Perhaps others can suggest a better working proceedure. Of course, when pressed for time, I postpone updating to Hans' latest so as not to be distracted from the work at hand. Alan On Tuesday 01 February 2011 09:43:00 Hans Hagen wrote: > On 1-2-2011 6:53, Vnpenguin wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 22:28, Hans Hagen wrote: > >> On 31-1-2011 7:11, Hans van der Meer wrote: > >>> Thanks for changing things that way between one and the other. I am > >>> starting to get a bit choleric about all things that constantly seem > >>> broken with the next update. Sorry for the sour note but these are > >>> costing me hours to iron out, time I do not have at the moment. > >> > >> well, no one forces you to update betas > >> > >> also, as long as we're in transition to mkiv you can expect an > >> occasional hickup, after all, i have only a few machines to test > > > > It's better to have someone could give you a hand. > > In the long term, something like "Release Team" would be a must for > > ConTeXt development. With this team, we can do some "Unit testing" for > > each release in order to minimize problem. > > to some extend this is what the beta is for ... because mkiv is a moving > target it sort of replaces the current, but if i can imagine that users > wait a few days with updating till there are no problems reported > > concerning testing ... there is a slowly growing test suite, and i guess > that at some point Luigi will run it alongside his module documentation > runs .. you can offer him help with that (sanjoy also has made some test > setup) > > in this particular case (adaption of mtxrun) testing is somewhat > problematic as we need a test-minimal alongside the regular one and that > might happen when mojca has set up the new machine > > Hans ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________