From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/66399 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Khaled Hosny Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: \halign Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:37:21 +0200 Message-ID: <20110225163721.GA9441@khaled-laptop> References: <87wrkps76d.fsf@gmail.com> <877hcorsxl.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1298651921 17575 80.91.229.12 (25 Feb 2011 16:38:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 16:38:41 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Feb 25 17:38:37 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pt0gf-0003Lz-8I for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:38:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F18CAA68; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:38:36 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id LQ-kn6A5kI11; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:38:21 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6FFCAA64; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:38:20 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0343CAA64 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:38:19 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id a34mALTr3CiV for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:37:59 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter1-til.mf.surf.net (filter1-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.217]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36E8BCAA5E for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:37:59 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f41.google.com (mail-fx0-f41.google.com [209.85.161.41]) by filter1-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id p1PGbwoE031276 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:37:58 +0100 Original-Received: by fxm5 with SMTP id 5so2402417fxm.14 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:37:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=T+4mbNSSI/1nyME9qkh3ZPYk3HlQiL7sLjjxi6qJiXU=; b=fSGnBxiU7/DExP6gkhS5obPRCq/wXovDAwXKAZUMR9GuL+E+i9Hg+NzJOjntrmZWav lA7PyBKv2o9hNhlK1SfCTXC4X1GuGZTGJvaNXDEws03OFC/6mncOrlaXHTJlWR2rERFc UCQwSIBU5sJB9jeDIt3IGQLBldIvViMsHV2a4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=MqGHHHK7dNw6aDvP/yrL3YfAgOeeq2Fpy2DZAnCoaQ9AQuCfzmhaUqJxK07sboILHa mASMAyg61VfcBKmxnT1Uexhse4NLHEuhBuMWQjvc9Lnpkrw9ZKCaa+WTZGrS4av1lpqL 5OcBnxFVetO1m16Td/Q/1VZdSlJqkfIod6al4= Original-Received: by 10.223.20.216 with SMTP id g24mr2921103fab.21.1298651846683; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:37:26 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost ([41.176.173.138]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y1sm386303fak.39.2011.02.25.08.37.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:37:25 -0800 (PST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <877hcorsxl.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.85.161.41; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 08EcgBWHB - 6dff8eadda40 - 20110225 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.217 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:66399 Archived-At: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:16:06AM -0500, Eythan Weg wrote: > > Wolfgang Schuster > Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:20:01 +0100 > > Am 24.02.2011 um 17:56 schrieb Eythan Weg: > > > > > Hi, > > > > I have just installed beta. > > > > The line: > > > > \starttext > > \halign{&\hfil#\hfil\quad\cr This& That\cr1&2\cr} > > \stoptext > > > > is not typeset and the & are left in place. What could be the problem? > > Since a while ^, _ and & can be used in text mode like any other character. > > You can disable this with \donknuthmode at the begin of your document or > use the \aligntab where you would normally use & but the best thing is > to use one of contexts build in table environment. > > Wolfgang > > Thank you. I think that \halign, being a primitive of tex, should be > respected. If a user wants to use it, it should be usable > unconditionally. I've no idea from where you came with this impression, is is usually the other way around; people are advised not to use low level TeX code where context has higher level interfaces, else you are on your own and should be aware of the implications/side effects. I, for one, grateful that I know longer need to escape regular characters in my documents just to keep supporting some obscure TeX feature. Regards, Khaled -- Khaled Hosny Egyptian Arab ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________