Indent paragraph after \placefigure

Indent paragraph after \placefigure

[Marco]

How to indent the paragraph after a \placefigure?

Example:

\setupindenting [yes, medium]
\starttext
This line is indented as intended.

\placefigure[auto][fig:somefigure]{My graphic}{}

This is not, but I'd like it to be.

This line is fine.
\stoptext


Marco


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Re: Indent paragraph after \placefigure

[Pontus Lurcock]

On Sat 26 Mar 2011, Marco wrote:

> How to indent the paragraph after a \placefigure?

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/setupindenting says that
\setupfloats[indentnext=yes] should give the desired result.
(I haven't tested it, though.)

Pont
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Re: Indent paragraph after \placefigure

[Marco]

On 2011-03-27 Pontus Lurcock <pont@talvi.net> wrote:

> On Sat 26 Mar 2011, Marco wrote:
> 
> > How to indent the paragraph after a \placefigure?
> 
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/setupindenting says that
> \setupfloats[indentnext=yes] should give the desired result.
> (I haven't tested it, though.)

According to the manual \setupfloats[indentnext=yes] is the default behaviour.
But it's not working, same result here:

\setupindenting [yes, medium]
\setupfloats    [indentnext=yes]
\starttext
This line is indented as intended.

\placefigure[auto][fig:somefigure]{My graphic}{}

This is not, but I'd like it to be.

This line is fine.
\stoptext


Marco


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Re: Indent paragraph after \placefigure

[Pontus Lurcock]

Sorry, I think I misunderstood the problem the first time (since I
didn't actually run your example until now). \setupfloats[indentnext=yes]
(as I understand it) controls the behaviour after the float is actually
placed in the output, rather than after the \placefigure... in the
source.

I'd expect the blank line after the \placefigure to trigger
indentation for the next paragraph, but this doesn't happen. I now
remember seeing this problem while typesetting a thesis chapter. Going
back to my source file, I see I worked around it in the most obvious
way:

\setupindenting [yes, medium]
\setupfloats    [indentnext=yes]
\starttext
This line is indented as intended.

\placefigure[auto][fig:somefigure]{My graphic}{}

\indentation This is indented, but only because of the explicit command.

This line is fine.
\stoptext

Maybe there is a better solution, but I don't know it... hope this is
helpful anyway.

Regards,

Pont


On Sun 27 Mar 2011, Marco wrote:

> On 2011-03-27 Pontus Lurcock <pont@talvi.net> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat 26 Mar 2011, Marco wrote:
> > 
> > > How to indent the paragraph after a \placefigure?
> > 
> > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/setupindenting says that
> > \setupfloats[indentnext=yes] should give the desired result.
> > (I haven't tested it, though.)
> 
> According to the manual \setupfloats[indentnext=yes] is the default behaviour.
> But it's not working, same result here:
> 
> \setupindenting [yes, medium]
> \setupfloats    [indentnext=yes]
> \starttext
> This line is indented as intended.
> 
> \placefigure[auto][fig:somefigure]{My graphic}{}
> 
> This is not, but I'd like it to be.
> 
> This line is fine.
> \stoptext
> 
> 
> Marco
> 
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Re: Indent paragraph after \placefigure

[Marco]

On 2011-03-27 Pontus Lurcock <pont@talvi.net> wrote:

> Sorry, I think I misunderstood the problem the first time (since I
> didn't actually run your example until now). \setupfloats[indentnext=yes]
> (as I understand it) controls the behaviour after the float is actually
> placed in the output, rather than after the \placefigure... in the
> source.
> 
> I'd expect the blank line after the \placefigure to trigger
> indentation for the next paragraph,but this doesn't happen.

Unfortunately not, no.

> I now remember seeing this problem while typesetting a thesis chapter. Going
> back to my source file, I see I worked around it in the most obvious way:

> \setupindenting [yes, medium]
> \setupfloats    [indentnext=yes]
> \starttext
> This line is indented as intended.
> 
> \placefigure[auto][fig:somefigure]{My graphic}{}
> 
> \indentation This is indented, but only because of the explicit command.
> 
> This line is fine.
> \stoptext
>
> Maybe there is a better solution,

I hope so. Scattering the source with explicit indentation requests is not
really desirable.


Marco


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Re: Indent paragraph after \placefigure

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 27.03.2011 um 00:22 schrieb Marco:

> On 2011-03-27 Pontus Lurcock <pont@talvi.net> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat 26 Mar 2011, Marco wrote:
>> 
>>> How to indent the paragraph after a \placefigure?
>> 
>> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/setupindenting says that
>> \setupfloats[indentnext=yes] should give the desired result.
>> (I haven't tested it, though.)
> 
> According to the manual \setupfloats[indentnext=yes] is the default behaviour.
> But it's not working, same result here:

It works when you drop the “auto” keyword.

Wolfgang

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Re: Indent paragraph after \placefigure

[Marco]

On 2011-03-27 Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:

> 
> Am 27.03.2011 um 00:22 schrieb Marco:
> 
> > On 2011-03-27 Pontus Lurcock <pont@talvi.net> wrote:
> > 
> >> On Sat 26 Mar 2011, Marco wrote:
> >> 
> >>> How to indent the paragraph after a \placefigure?
> >> 
> >> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/setupindenting says that
> >> \setupfloats[indentnext=yes] should give the desired result.
> >> (I haven't tested it, though.)
> > 
> > According to the manual \setupfloats[indentnext=yes] is the default
> > behaviour. But it's not working, same result here:
> 
> It works when you drop the “auto” keyword.

Thanks. I don't really get the reason behind, but
it works.


Marco


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Re: Indent paragraph after \placefigure

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 26.03.2011 um 23:37 schrieb Marco:

> How to indent the paragraph after a \placefigure?
> 
> Example:
> 
> \setupindenting [yes, medium]
> \starttext
> This line is indented as intended.
> 
> \placefigure[auto][fig:somefigure]{My graphic}{}
> 
> This is not, but I'd like it to be.
> 
> This line is fine.
> \stoptext

Not sure if there are side effects but adding \nonoindentation to these
two commands from strc-flt.mkiv help for the “auto” and “bottom” keywords.

- \def\somebottomfloat       [#1]{\someelsefloat[#1]}
- \def\someautofloat         [#1]{\someelsefloat[#1]}
+ \def\someautofloat         [#1]{\someelsefloat[#1]\nonoindentation}
+ \def\somebottomfloat       [#1]{\someelsefloat[#1]\nonoindentation}

Wolfgang

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Re: Indent paragraph after \placefigure

[Marco]

On 2011-03-27 Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Not sure if there are side effects but adding \nonoindentation to these
> two commands from strc-flt.mkiv help for the “auto” and “bottom” keywords.
> 
> - \def\somebottomfloat       [#1]{\someelsefloat[#1]}
> - \def\someautofloat         [#1]{\someelsefloat[#1]}
> + \def\someautofloat         [#1]{\someelsefloat[#1]\nonoindentation}
> + \def\somebottomfloat       [#1]{\someelsefloat[#1]\nonoindentation}

This works for me. Seems to be the best solution. Maye Hans can check if it
causes side effects and change it in the source if it's unlikely to cause
troubles.

Marco


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Re: Indent paragraph after \placefigure

[Pontus Lurcock]

On Sun 27 Mar 2011, Marco wrote:

> > It works when you drop the “auto” keyword.
> 
> Thanks. I don't really get the reason behind, but it works.

When I drop the ‘auto’ keyword it defaults to ‘here’, which does give
the indentation (presumably because the figure now appears in the
output at the same place as the \placefigure in the input) but it
doesn't solve the problem for cases where the figure needs to be
somewhere other than ‘here’.

Pont
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Re: Indent paragraph after \placefigure

[Marco]

On 2011-03-28 Pontus Lurcock <pont@talvi.net> wrote:

> On Sun 27 Mar 2011, Marco wrote:
> 
> > > It works when you drop the “auto” keyword.
> > 
> > Thanks. I don't really get the reason behind, but it works.
> 
> When I drop the ‘auto’ keyword it defaults to ‘here’, which does give
> the indentation (presumably because the figure now appears in the
> output at the same place as the \placefigure in the input) but it
> doesn't solve the problem for cases where the figure needs to be
> somewhere other than ‘here’.

Same here. But if you provide »top« for instance, then it works. Wolfgang came
up with a better solution, see his post in this thread. Maybe the patch will
go into the core.


Marco


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Re: Indent paragraph after \placefigure

[Pontus Lurcock]

On Sun 27 Mar 2011, Marco wrote:

> Same here. But if you provide »top« for instance, then it works.

Looking at strc-flt.mkiv, the reason appears to be that the
\nonoindent which Wolfgang added to ‘bottom’ and ‘auto’ is alreday
present in ‘top’ and ‘margin’.

Pont
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Re: Indent paragraph after \placefigure

[Hans Hagen]

On 27-3-2011 11:14, Pontus Lurcock wrote:
> On Sun 27 Mar 2011, Marco wrote:
>
>>> It works when you drop the “auto” keyword.
>>
>> Thanks. I don't really get the reason behind, but it works.
>
> When I drop the ‘auto’ keyword it defaults to ‘here’, which does give
> the indentation (presumably because the figure now appears in the
> output at the same place as the \placefigure in the input) but it
> doesn't solve the problem for cases where the figure needs to be
> somewhere other than ‘here’.

i can make that work but not now (mkiv-ing floats in later on the agenda)


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Re: Indent paragraph after \placefigure

[Marco]

On 2011-03-28 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> On 27-3-2011 11:14, Pontus Lurcock wrote:
> > On Sun 27 Mar 2011, Marco wrote:
> >
> >>> It works when you drop the “auto” keyword.
> >>
> >> Thanks. I don't really get the reason behind, but it works.
> >
> > When I drop the ‘auto’ keyword it defaults to ‘here’, which does give
> > the indentation (presumably because the figure now appears in the
> > output at the same place as the \placefigure in the input) but it
> > doesn't solve the problem for cases where the figure needs to be
> > somewhere other than ‘here’.
> 
> i can make that work but not now (mkiv-ing floats in later on the agenda)

Better later than never :)


Marco


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Re: Indent paragraph after \placefigure

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 28.03.2011 um 00:53 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> On 27-3-2011 11:14, Pontus Lurcock wrote:
>> On Sun 27 Mar 2011, Marco wrote:
>> 
>>>> It works when you drop the “auto” keyword.
>>> 
>>> Thanks. I don't really get the reason behind, but it works.
>> 
>> When I drop the ‘auto’ keyword it defaults to ‘here’, which does give
>> the indentation (presumably because the figure now appears in the
>> output at the same place as the \placefigure in the input) but it
>> doesn't solve the problem for cases where the figure needs to be
>> somewhere other than ‘here’.
> 
> i can make that work but not now (mkiv-ing floats in later on the agenda)


I can confirm the missing indent after \placetable[page]
After \placetable[page] there is also the page-header empty (no \getmarking[sectionnumber] nor \getmarking[section])

Steffen
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