Re: Finite state machine

Re: Finite state machine

[Philipp Gesang]

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On 2011-04-26 <15:38:43>, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
> 2011/4/26 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Cecil Westerhof <cldwesterhof@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Is there a way to create finite state machines with ConTeXt?
> > yes
> 
> How?

Do you want to *implement* a FSM or *draw* a diagram of it?
  * implementing -> Lua -> http://lua-users.org/wiki/FiniteStateMachine
  * drawing -> either
    -> use MP or
    -> filter through GraphViz http://www.graphviz.org/Gallery/directed/fsm.html
       (You might want to try http://luagraph.luaforge.net/ but
       beware it occasionally segfaults with luatex.)

Hth, Philipp

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Re: Finite state machine

[Philipp Gesang]

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On 2011-04-26 <16:00:55>, luigi scarso wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Philipp Gesang
> <pgesang@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:
> Whoa, you have seen these emails two days ago...

No divination involved, just that the last sys update broke my
ntp client …

> 
> > On 2011-04-26 <15:38:43>, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
> >> 2011/4/26 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
> >> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Cecil Westerhof <cldwesterhof@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Is there a way to create finite state machines with ConTeXt?
> >> > yes
> >>
> >> How?
> >
> > Do you want to *implement* a FSM or *draw* a diagram of it?
> For both the questions the answer is always yes --- but of course it
> was a way to ask for more details.
> 
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Finite state machine

[Cecil Westerhof]

Is there a way to create finite state machines with ConTeXt?

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Re: Finite state machine

[luigi scarso]

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Cecil Westerhof <cldwesterhof@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there a way to create finite state machines with ConTeXt?
yes



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Re: Finite state machine

[Cecil Westerhof]

2011/4/26 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Cecil Westerhof <cldwesterhof@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is there a way to create finite state machines with ConTeXt?
> yes

How?

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Re: Finite state machine

[luigi scarso]

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Cecil Westerhof <cldwesterhof@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2011/4/26 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Cecil Westerhof <cldwesterhof@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Is there a way to create finite state machines with ConTeXt?
>> yes
>
> How?
I don't know the details, but it should be simple with Lua using the
tables, cfr.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite-state_machine
State transition table

In TeX should be almost the same, and with MetaPost you can draw
states and transitions.

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Re: Finite state machine

[Cecil Westerhof]

2011/4/26 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Cecil Westerhof <cldwesterhof@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2011/4/26 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
>>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Cecil Westerhof <cldwesterhof@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Is there a way to create finite state machines with ConTeXt?
>>> yes
>>
>> How?
> I don't know the details, but it should be simple with Lua using the
> tables, cfr.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite-state_machine
> State transition table
>
> In TeX should be almost the same, and with MetaPost you can draw
> states and transitions.

There is not a module like for flow charts? (Makes sense, because I
could not find something.)

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Re: Finite state machine

[Vedran Miletić]

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2011/4/26 Cecil Westerhof <cldwesterhof@gmail.com>

> 2011/4/26 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Cecil Westerhof <cldwesterhof@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> 2011/4/26 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
> >>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Cecil Westerhof <
> cldwesterhof@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Is there a way to create finite state machines with ConTeXt?
> >>> yes
> >>
> >> How?
> > I don't know the details, but it should be simple with Lua using the
> > tables, cfr.
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite-state_machine
> > State transition table
> >
> > In TeX should be almost the same, and with MetaPost you can draw
> > states and transitions.
>
> There is not a module like for flow charts? (Makes sense, because I
> could not find something.)
>

There is automata.mp at
http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/metapost/contrib/macros/automata

I'm not sure it's the best module for that, though.

Regards,

Vedran Miletić

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Re: Finite state machine

[luigi scarso]

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Philipp Gesang
<pgesang@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:
Whoa, you have seen these emails two days ago...

> On 2011-04-26 <15:38:43>, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
>> 2011/4/26 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
>> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Cecil Westerhof <cldwesterhof@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Is there a way to create finite state machines with ConTeXt?
>> > yes
>>
>> How?
>
> Do you want to *implement* a FSM or *draw* a diagram of it?
For both the questions the answer is always yes --- but of course it
was a way to ask for more details.

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Re: Finite state machine

[Cecil Westerhof]

2011/4/26 Vedran Miletić <rivanvx@gmail.com>:
>> There is not a module like for flow charts? (Makes sense, because I
>> could not find something.)
>
> There is automata.mp at
> http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/metapost/contrib/macros/automata

The first redirects to ch.mp and the second seems only to work woth
LaTeX. But I'll look into it.

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Re: Finite state machine

[Cecil Westerhof]

2011/4/24 Philipp Gesang <pgesang@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>:
>> >> Is there a way to create finite state machines with ConTeXt?
>> > yes
>>
>> How?
>
> Do you want to *implement* a FSM or *draw* a diagram of it?
>  * implementing -> Lua -> http://lua-users.org/wiki/FiniteStateMachine
>  * drawing -> either
>    -> use MP or
>    -> filter through GraphViz http://www.graphviz.org/Gallery/directed/fsm.html
>       (You might want to try http://luagraph.luaforge.net/ but
>       beware it occasionally segfaults with luatex.)

I just want to include a finite state machine in a pdf document.

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Re: Finite state machine

[Hans Hagen]

On 26-4-2011 4:06, Cecil Westerhof wrote:

> I just want to include a finite state machine in a pdf document.

tex's hyphenation routine will do I guess

Hans

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Re: Finite state machine

[mathew]

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 09:06, Cecil Westerhof <cldwesterhof@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just want to include a finite state machine in a pdf document.

I usually go GraphViz -> SVG, touch up the SVG with Inkscape, then
save from Inkscape to PDF.

If you're happy with GraphViz's standard output, it'll write PDF directly.


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Re: Finite state machine

[Cecil Westerhof]

2011/4/26 mathew <meta@pobox.com>:
>> I just want to include a finite state machine in a pdf document.
>
> I usually go GraphViz -> SVG, touch up the SVG with Inkscape, then
> save from Inkscape to PDF.
>
> If you're happy with GraphViz's standard output, it'll write PDF directly.

SVG can be included in a ConTeXt document? Best would be then to
create a SVG document and include it in my ConTeXt document.

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Re: Finite state machine

[Vedran Miletić]

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2011/4/26 Cecil Westerhof <cldwesterhof@gmail.com>

> 2011/4/26 mathew <meta@pobox.com>:
> >> I just want to include a finite state machine in a pdf document.
> >
> > I usually go GraphViz -> SVG, touch up the SVG with Inkscape, then
> > save from Inkscape to PDF.
> >
> > If you're happy with GraphViz's standard output, it'll write PDF
> directly.
>
> SVG can be included in a ConTeXt document? Best would be then to
> create a SVG document and include it in my ConTeXt document.
>

IIRC it's converted to PDF on the fly (but Inkscape must be installed).

Vedran Miletić

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Re: Finite state machine

[Aditya Mahajan]

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On Tue, 26 Apr 2011, Vedran Miletić wrote:

> 2011/4/26 Cecil Westerhof <cldwesterhof@gmail.com>
>
>> 2011/4/26 mathew <meta@pobox.com>:
>>>> I just want to include a finite state machine in a pdf document.
>>>
>>> I usually go GraphViz -> SVG, touch up the SVG with Inkscape, then
>>> save from Inkscape to PDF.
>>>
>>> If you're happy with GraphViz's standard output, it'll write PDF
>> directly.
>>
>> SVG can be included in a ConTeXt document? Best would be then to
>> create a SVG document and include it in my ConTeXt document.
>>
>
> IIRC it's converted to PDF on the fly (but Inkscape must be installed).

http://randomdeterminism.wordpress.com/2010/10/09/using-eps-and-svg-images/

Aditya

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Re: Finite state machine

[Hans Hagen]

On 26-4-2011 7:45, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

> http://randomdeterminism.wordpress.com/2010/10/09/using-eps-and-svg-images/

but

(That is indeed m_k_v_i and not m_k_i_v due to a typo in grph-inc.lua)

was fixed, wasn't it?


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Re: Finite state machine

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Tue, 26 Apr 2011, Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 26-4-2011 7:45, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>
>> http://randomdeterminism.wordpress.com/2010/10/09/using-eps-and-svg-images/
>
> but
>
> (That is indeed m_k_v_i and not m_k_i_v due to a typo in grph-inc.lua)
>
> was fixed, wasn't it?

Yes, but I have not updated the blog post (its a blog, not a wiki :)

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Re: Finite state machine

[Hans Hagen]

On 26-4-2011 8:33, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2011, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> On 26-4-2011 7:45, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>>
>>> http://randomdeterminism.wordpress.com/2010/10/09/using-eps-and-svg-images/
>>>
>>
>> but
>>
>> (That is indeed m_k_v_i and not m_k_i_v due to a typo in grph-inc.lua)
>>
>> was fixed, wasn't it?
>
> Yes, but I have not updated the blog post (its a blog, not a wiki :)

so you should comment on your own blog -)


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