new look for wiki

new look for wiki

[luigi scarso]

http://wiki.contextgarden.net
This is not the official announcement --- but I wasn't able to resist...

Nice work, thank you very much Siep.

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Re: new look for wiki

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 27.09.2011 um 18:05 schrieb luigi scarso:

> http://wiki.contextgarden.net
> This is not the official announcement --- but I wasn't able to resist...
> 
> Nice work, thank you very much Siep.

Especially when you can see the template with colors :)

Wolfgang

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Re: new look for wiki

[Alan Braslau]

*WOW*

Alan

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 06:22:59PM +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> 
> Am 27.09.2011 um 18:05 schrieb luigi scarso:
> 
> > http://wiki.contextgarden.net
> > This is not the official announcement --- but I wasn't able to resist...
> > 
> > Nice work, thank you very much Siep.
> 
> Especially when you can see the template with colors :)
> 
> Wolfgang
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Re: new look for wiki

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 27.09.2011 um 18:05 schrieb luigi scarso:

> http://wiki.contextgarden.net
> This is not the official announcement --- but I wasn't able to resist...
> 
> Nice work, thank you very much Siep.


Yes indeed. A great improvement ... context now looks represented like a real lively movement (what it is in earnest!) Thank you for your efforts Siep!

Steffen

PS: But I wonder -- what Alan said -- if this wouldn't be even more impressive, when you/Siep could also find appropriate images going through autum/winter/spring? What do other think?


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Re: new look for wiki

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 22:50, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>
> PS: But I wonder -- what Alan said -- if this wouldn't be even more impressive, when you/Siep could also find appropriate images going through autum/winter/spring? What do other think?

Nothing against the idea, but in my opinion unifying the design with
meeting.contextgarden.net, group.contextgarden.net, apache listings,
live.contextgarden.net, modules.contextgarden.net etc. would have a
much higher priority than having four different color for wiki, at
least at the time being.

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Re: new look for wiki

[Mojca Miklavec]

I'm just curious. Why didn't anyone complain about "page is too wide"
with the old style and "wikipedia looks bad because it is soooo wide"?

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Re: new look for wiki

[Martin Schröder]

2011/9/27 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
> Nice work, thank you very much Siep.

Indeed. But where is the option for it to use the full width of my
browser window?

Best
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Re: new look for wiki

[Martin Schröder]

2011/9/27 Martin Schröder <martin@oneiros.de>:
> Indeed. But where is the option for it to use the full width of my
> browser window?

Found it, sorry for the noise. Just login and choose a different skin. :-)

Best
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Re: new look for wiki

[John Haltiwanger]

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On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Martin Schröder <martin@oneiros.de> wrote:

> 2011/9/27 Martin Schröder <martin@oneiros.de>:
> > Indeed. But where is the option for it to use the full width of my
> > browser window?
>
> Found it, sorry for the noise. Just login and choose a different skin. :-)
>
>
Rather simpler, and still with the same skin, is zooming with 'ctrl+'.




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Re: new look for wiki

[Taco Hoekwater]

On 09/27/2011 11:52 PM, Martin Schröder wrote:
> 2011/9/27 Martin Schröder<martin@oneiros.de>:
>> Indeed. But where is the option for it to use the full width of my
>> browser window?
>
> Found it, sorry for the noise. Just login and choose a different skin. :-)

We could easily have a "ContextSkin" and "ContextSkinWide", but I
personally think that ctrl-+ is better.

Best wishes,
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Re: new look for wiki

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:17, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> On 09/27/2011 11:52 PM, Martin Schröder wrote:
>>
>> 2011/9/27 Martin Schröder<martin@oneiros.de>:
>>>
>>> Indeed. But where is the option for it to use the full width of my
>>> browser window?
>>
>> Found it, sorry for the noise. Just login and choose a different skin. :-)
>
> We could easily have a "ContextSkin" and "ContextSkinWide", but I
> personally think that ctrl-+ is better.

I don't know how that works of Linux, but "apple +" magnifies text,
which results in even less contents on the page which defeats its
purpose, while "apple -" makes text unreadable, but also shrinks the
active area.

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Re: new look for wiki

[Otared Kavian]

On 27 sept. 2011, at 18:05, luigi scarso wrote:

> http://wiki.contextgarden.net
> This is not the official announcement --- but I wasn't able to resist...
> 
> Nice work, thank you very much Siep.
> 
> -- 
> luigi
> ____________

I found the new look after being almost 3 months away from the list: it is absolutely great!
Indeed thank you very much Siep and all the people who contributed.

May I suggest that a word should be said about the Context User Group, by adding a link to
	http://group.contextgarden.net/

Best regards: OK
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Re: new look for wiki

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 18:24, Otared Kavian wrote:
>
> I found the new look after being almost 3 months away from the list: it is absolutely great!
> Indeed thank you very much Siep and all the people who contributed.
>
> May I suggest that a word should be said about the Context User Group, by adding a link to
>        http://group.contextgarden.net/

You were the first one who registered via the web form! :)

You could have gotten the membership number 1 if it wasn't sold out at
fund-raising auction for 120 EUR.

We had the first General Assembly on Friday 23rd September in
Bassenge. We'll probably do some more promotion of the user group as
soon as we will have the account open, so that users can be redirected
to payment page straight away.

Mojca
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Re: new look for wiki

[John Haltiwanger]

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On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> wrote:

> On 09/27/2011 11:52 PM, Martin Schröder wrote:
>
>> 2011/9/27 Martin Schröder<martin@oneiros.de>:
>>
>>> Indeed. But where is the option for it to use the full width of my
>>> browser window?
>>>
>>
>> Found it, sorry for the noise. Just login and choose a different skin. :-)
>>
>
> We could easily have a "ContextSkin" and "ContextSkinWide", but I
> personally think that ctrl-+ is better.
>
>
Also we could have a javascript function which zooms the content to the
width of the current screen.

Apple behavior (apple-+ modifying font size rather than zooming) does make
the "just zoom it" approach less trivial though.

The reason I suggested a non-liquid layout for Context garden is that, in my
opinion, the normal wiki / liquid text style reflects poorly on a project
which promises beautiful typography.

For an example of additional precedent for this approach, the Textmate wiki
is also a fixed width layout: http://wiki.macromates.com/Main/HomePage



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Re: new look for wiki

[Alan Braslau]

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 06:05:59PM +0200, luigi scarso wrote:
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net
> This is not the official announcement --- but I wasn't able to resist...
> 
> Nice work, thank you very much Siep.

Again, very nice. But, unfortunately, I loose the style when I log in :(

Alan
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Re: new look for wiki

[Philipp A.]

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2011/9/28 Alan Braslau <alan.braslau@cea.fr>

> Again, very nice. But, unfortunately, I loose the style when I log in :(
>
> Alan
>

go here: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:Preferences#mw-htmlform-skin

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Re: new look for wiki

[Alan Braslau]

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 01:06:06AM +0200, Philipp A. wrote:
> 2011/9/28 Alan Braslau <alan.braslau@cea.fr>
> 
>     Again, very nice. But, unfortunately, I loose the style when I log in :(
> 
> go here: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Special:Preferences#mw-htmlform-skin

Thanks
(But this should be the default - maybe it is now for new users.)

Alan
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Re: new look for wiki

[Siep Kroonenberg]

Thanks for all the praise.

ATM I have limited time for fixing issues so do not expect instant
responses or fixes. But if you have problems, it would help to list:
- browser and browser version
- OS
- Javascript on or off
- problem url

About the limited width:

max-width is expressed in ems. Zooming also zooms the width of the
page, up to the width of the window.

With a line `$wgAllowUserCss = true;' in LocalSettings.php,
users could make a page User:<user name>/contextskin.css with
content

body { max-width: none; }

to always use the full width of the window. But currently such a
page has no effect.

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Re: new look for wiki

[Philipp A.]

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2011/9/29 Alan Braslau <alan.braslau@cea.fr>

> Thanks
> (But this should be the default - maybe it is now for new users.)
>
> Alan
>

i don’t know, but i suspect that we both changed this setting from default
at one point in the past, and so it now sticks to our decision.

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