From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/72530 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Pontus Lurcock Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: \unit and Hertz, lux, and degrees/minutes/seconds Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:28:28 +1300 Message-ID: <20111118092828.GR5988@rae.vm.bytemark.co.uk> References: <20111118033143.GQ5988@rae.vm.bytemark.co.uk> <4EC608AD.4000805@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1321608535 20009 80.91.229.12 (18 Nov 2011 09:28:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:28:55 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Nov 18 10:28:48 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RRKka-0007WW-0s for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:28:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D06CB0BD; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:28:46 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id LNcaY+XVAyEY; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:28:43 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506FDCB0C3; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:28:43 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3DE0CB0C3 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:28:40 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id QH-4YmiH6ReO for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:28:29 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter2-nij.mf.surf.net (filter2-nij.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.153]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64642CB0BD for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:28:29 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from rae.vm.bytemark.co.uk (rae.talvi.net [89.16.174.99]) by filter2-nij.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id pAI9SSr8010582 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:28:28 +0100 Original-Received: from pont by rae.vm.bytemark.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RRKkG-0004uP-73 for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:28:28 +0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4EC608AD.4000805@wxs.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0013 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=89.16.174.99; country=GB; latitude=54.0000; longitude=-2.0000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=54.0000,-2.0000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0aFWxssq0 - 5473cb6d1a86 - 20111118 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 195.169.124.153 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:72530 Archived-At: On Fri 18 Nov 2011, Hans Hagen wrote: > so, best is that those asking for it come up with a list of issues: > which symbols need this option, is it language related or whatever, > so that i can do them all at once. We can already have different > mapping sets so spacing could be part of that. I don't personally have a need for units in the foreseeable future (I was just nitpicking with Robin about spacing) so feel free to ignore any of my suggestions, but I think the summary so far would be: 1. Spacing for almost all SI units should be the same and doesn't need special cases. 2. Geographical degrees/minutes/seconds should have no spaces. 3. Spacing for degrees temperature varies according to different style = guides -- both before and after the =B0 -- so ideally it would be possible to set these independently of the rest of the units. For my own part I would add: 4. SI unit abbreviations are mostly capital letters, and look (to me) strange with old-style figures. I have seen books which used = old-style figures for page numbers, years, etc. but switched to lining figures when a unit was involved; this is also what I did in my thesis. So I think it would be useful to allow an automatic switch to lining figures to be configured when typesetting a unit. Pont ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________