From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/75283 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philipp Gesang Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Itemize without page break Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:21:47 +0100 Message-ID: <20120322112147.GA31869@phlegethon> References: <1332113351.3358.44.camel@kip-laptop> <1332205456.3358.248.camel@kip-laptop> <7448136C-5F9E-44D5-8D5E-DF40EA6C3E57@googlemail.com> <1332221482.3358.310.camel@kip-laptop> <46285150-558A-4D3E-B052-12DFBF7E6F70@googlemail.com> <1332281923.21496.1.camel@kip-laptop> <1332381718.21496.61.camel@kip-laptop> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0926429687==" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1332415378 8606 80.91.229.3 (22 Mar 2012 11:22:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 11:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: kip@thevertigo.com To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Mar 22 12:22:57 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SAg6a-0000ei-Ey for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:22:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1F310194; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:22:53 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id PdAtNPMI29Tf; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:22:52 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE49101E3; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:22:51 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454E7101E3 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:22:50 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id DEZ9BOMWwPBe for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:22:48 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter2-ams.mf.surf.net (filter2-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.70]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7B010194 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:22:48 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by filter2-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id q2MBMlMq029154 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:22:48 +0100 Original-Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (cyrus-portal.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.176]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q2MBMiPc007569 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:22:47 +0100 Original-Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q2MBLLo8022783 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:21:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (dslb-188-104-157-078.pools.arcor-ip.net [188.104.157.78]) (authenticated bits=0) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q2MBL7YY014841 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 22 Mar 2012 12:21:08 +0100 Mail-Followup-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users , kip@thevertigo.com In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: Linux phlegethon 3.2.9-1-ARCH X-Polite-Request: "Please try to be nice, don't send html mail." User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=129.206.210.211; country=DE; region=01; city=Heidelberg; latitude=49.4167; longitude=8.7000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=49.4167,8.7000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0QGMzmLfO - de79073243a1 - 20120322 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.70 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:75283 Archived-At: --===============0926429687== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu" Content-Disposition: inline --sdtB3X0nJg68CQEu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2012-03-22 11:38, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 03:01, Kip Warner wrote: > > On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 18:22 -0400, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > >> Anything else will leave to undersirable behaviour (or segfaults :) ) = As I > >> had said in one of my earlier emails, this is the case for ALL context > >> macros that take both options and assignments. > > > > Fair enough. I got it to work now with, > > > > \startitemize[R,2*broad][start=3D11,before=3D\startlinecorrection,after= =3D > > \stoplinecorrection] > > > > My only concern here is that, for something as incredibly fundamental > > and recurring in the world of ConTeXt, the caveats and distinctions to > > be made between options and assignments, that can and have taken down > > entire operating systems, or cause hour after hour of no end of vague > > syntactical errors, or even successful compilations with the wrong > > effects, shouldn't that probably have been mentioned at least once, even > > if only in passing, somewhere within the 369 page user manual? The word > > "assignment" I couldn't locate once. You=E2=80=99re right, it can cause confusion to people migrating from Latex where package options, afair, allows mixed key-value/list syntax (like e.g. Lua does as well). Random example from the KOMA-Script manual: \documentclass[BCOR=3D12mm,DIV=3Dcalc,twoside]{scrartcl} ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ assignment =E2=80=A6 switch Therefore the difference to Context deserves mention at least somewhere in which said migrators are most likely to consult first. > - Maybe it could be more explicit, but if you ever take a look at > documentation, for example > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupitemgroup > you will notice that some brackets are depicted with [...,...] and > others with [...,...=3D...,...] And while we are handing out reading assignments (pun intended) here are two wiki links that provide background information: Perhaps it makes most sense to think of Comma Lists v. Assignment Lists in terms of the two different argument parsers being used to process them. 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