* Beta breaks synonyms
@ 2012-05-23 12:23 Marco
2012-05-23 12:32 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Marco @ 2012-05-23 12:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Hi
Today's beta breaks synonyms. The first run is fine, the second one
fails with an
! Undefined control sequence.
Example:
\abbreviation {LOREM} {Lorem Ipsum}
\starttext
\placelistofabbreviations
\LOREM\infull{LOREM}
\stoptext
Marco
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* Re: Beta breaks synonyms
2012-05-23 12:23 Beta breaks synonyms Marco
@ 2012-05-23 12:32 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2012-05-23 14:09 ` Is there some easy way to do tufte-style side note? Andy Thomas
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2012-05-23 12:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 23.05.2012 um 14:23 schrieb Marco:
> Hi
>
> Today's beta breaks synonyms. The first run is fine, the second one
> fails with an
>
> ! Undefined control sequence.
>
> Example:
>
> \abbreviation {LOREM} {Lorem Ipsum}
> \starttext
> \placelistofabbreviations
> \LOREM\infull{LOREM}
> \stoptext
strc-des.mkvi:
\unexpanded\def\strc_descriptions_nop_titled
{\doifnextbgroupelse
- {\strc_descriptions_nop_titled_yes_indeed}%
+ {\strc_descriptions_nop_titled_indeed}
{\setfalse\c_strc_constructions_title_state
\strc_descriptions_nop_normal}}
Wolfgang
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* Re: Is there some easy way to do tufte-style side note?
2012-05-23 12:32 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2012-05-23 14:09 ` Andy Thomas
2012-05-26 12:12 ` Jano Kula
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From: Andy Thomas @ 2012-05-23 14:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I finished a first version of a tufte style sample document that is based on a predecessor in another macro language. The auto alignment of the marginals has to be improved, but the rest looks already quite decent.
Please see: https://pub.uni-bielefeld.de/luur/download?func=downloadFile&recordOId=2303165&fileOId=2303168
for a full sample document.
Simpler example code and the module is on github: https://github.com/andythomas/TeX-sidenotes/tree/master/context
Cheers,
Andy
Am 2012-04-22 um 18:30 schrieb Yue Wang:
> There are many styles available on the context-garden site
> (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Sample_documents) which are really
> helpful to help newcomers to learn how to define styles in context.
> Wouldn't it be great to add tufte's and bringhurst's as extra
> examples?
Of course - just do it.
Greetlings, Hraban
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* Re: Is there some easy way to do tufte-style side note?
2012-05-23 14:09 ` Is there some easy way to do tufte-style side note? Andy Thomas
@ 2012-05-26 12:12 ` Jano Kula
2012-05-27 14:41 ` Andy Thomas
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From: Jano Kula @ 2012-05-26 12:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello Andy,
On 05/23/2012 04:09 PM, Andy Thomas wrote:
> I finished a first version of a tufte style sample document that is based on a predecessor in another macro language. The auto alignment of the marginals has to be improved, but the rest looks already quite decent.
>
> Please see: https://pub.uni-bielefeld.de/luur/download?func=downloadFile&recordOId=2303165&fileOId=2303168
>
> for a full sample document.
Nice work! Decent and nice design, good typesetting, I assume some hand
work which of course cannot be avoided to make the result pleasing.
Just two remarks to the layout. Figure descriptions set in to the block
(narrow column) produces too large spaces in the lines often. Ragged
text would suit it better, I think.
Side notes set ragged left (rigth justyfied) on left pages are quite
difficult to read, I would make them ragged right (left justified) on
all pages and it would break the overall design at all.
Just wondering, why is Optima-Regular embeded so many times?
Regards,
Jano
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* Re: Is there some easy way to do tufte-style side note?
2012-05-26 12:12 ` Jano Kula
@ 2012-05-27 14:41 ` Andy Thomas
2012-05-28 14:33 ` Jano Kula
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From: Andy Thomas @ 2012-05-27 14:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello Jano,
On May 26, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Jano Kula wrote:
> Hello Andy,
>
> On 05/23/2012 04:09 PM, Andy Thomas wrote:
>> I finished a first version of a tufte style sample document that is based on a predecessor in another macro language. The auto alignment of the marginals has to be improved, but the rest looks already quite decent.
>>
>> Please see: https://pub.uni-bielefeld.de/luur/download?func=downloadFile&recordOId=2303165&fileOId=2303168
>>
>> for a full sample document.
>
> Nice work! Decent and nice design, good typesetting, I assume some hand work which of course cannot be avoided to make the result pleasing.
>
thank you for the positive feedback. The example thesis has a lot of hand work. However, in the end I would like to have something that looks 95% instead of 100%, but fully automatic. Then, I could output the same text in different output formats (book, handouts for every chapter, e-reader, ...), tweaking every file would cost too much time.
> Just two remarks to the layout. Figure descriptions set in to the block (narrow column) produces too large spaces in the lines often. Ragged text would suit it better, I think.
Seven Thesis were made, so far, and everyone plays a little with the overall design to see how things look when tweaked a little. But justified is not ideal, I agree.
>
> Side notes set ragged left (rigth justyfied) on left pages are quite difficult to read, I would make them ragged right (left justified) on all pages and.
I guess you want to say [...] it would [not] break the overall design at all ;) I like the look of ragged outer when just looking at a double page from far. It does make reading more difficult. I still cannot decide. In the end legibility should be more important, so ragged right is better like you said.
>
> Just wondering, why is Optima-Regular embeded so many times?
We wanted to have a sans serif font for the viewgraphs that matches the Palatino (orig. 1948). So we went for Optima (1952-1955 and also from Hermann Zapf). Wikipedia says "Optima's capitals (like Palatino's) are directly derived from the classic Roman monumental capital model [...]". I think, it does look good together. We also wanted a TeX Gyre font as main font, so that it is available on every system.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jano
Aditya Mahajan contextified the github sources. It might be good to download the new stuff. Thanks for the help.
Andy
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* Re: Is there some easy way to do tufte-style side note?
2012-05-27 14:41 ` Andy Thomas
@ 2012-05-28 14:33 ` Jano Kula
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From: Jano Kula @ 2012-05-28 14:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello Andy,
On 05/27/2012 04:41 PM, Andy Thomas wrote:
> Hello Jano,
>
> On May 26, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Jano Kula wrote:
>
>> Hello Andy,
>> Side notes set ragged left (rigth justyfied) on left pages are quite difficult to read, I would make them ragged right (left justified) on all pages and.
>
> I guess you want to say [...] it would [not] break the overall design at all ;) I like the look of ragged outer when just looking at a double page from far. It does make reading more difficult. I still cannot decide. In the end legibility should be more important, so ragged right is better like you said.
Sure, I wanted to say: "it would not break the overall design at all" :)
>> Just wondering, why is Optima-Regular embeded so many times?
>
> We wanted to have a sans serif font for the viewgraphs that matches the Palatino (orig. 1948). So we went for Optima (1952-1955 and also from Hermann Zapf). Wikipedia says "Optima's capitals (like Palatino's) are directly derived from the classic Roman monumental capital model [...]". I think, it does look good together. We also wanted a TeX Gyre font as main font, so that it is available on every system.
Of course a good choice, but I meant something different. When I have a
look at the Properties of the document in the Adobe Reader or just list
the fonts with "pdffonts" command on linux, then Optima-Regular is
listed 141 times. Figure labels use sans serif, so I'm wondering why so
many times the font is included.
Jano
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