* Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS
@ 2012-05-29 10:19 Janne Junnila
2012-05-29 12:13 ` Khaled Hosny
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From: Janne Junnila @ 2012-05-29 10:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
I just noticed that the spacing after ${\cal P}$ looks a bit too tight
(non-existent?) while using XITS fonts.
\setupbodyfont[xits]
\starttext
The spacing of ${\cal P}$ looks like this.
\stoptext
I'm not sure if the other calligraphic letters are totally fine
either, but this one caught my eye. I suppose it's a font issue. Any
ideas?
Best regards,
Janne Junnila
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread* Re: Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS 2012-05-29 10:19 Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS Janne Junnila @ 2012-05-29 12:13 ` Khaled Hosny 2012-05-29 12:29 ` Rogers, Michael K 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Khaled Hosny @ 2012-05-29 12:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 01:19:00PM +0300, Janne Junnila wrote: > Hi, > > I just noticed that the spacing after ${\cal P}$ looks a bit too tight > (non-existent?) while using XITS fonts. > > \setupbodyfont[xits] > \starttext > The spacing of ${\cal P}$ looks like this. > \stoptext > > I'm not sure if the other calligraphic letters are totally fine > either, but this one caught my eye. I suppose it's a font issue. Any > ideas? Looks fine here (in my eyes at least), can you attach the resulting PDF? Regards, Khaled ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS 2012-05-29 12:13 ` Khaled Hosny @ 2012-05-29 12:29 ` Rogers, Michael K 2012-05-29 12:39 ` Khaled Hosny 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Rogers, Michael K @ 2012-05-29 12:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1246 bytes --] On May 29, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 01:19:00PM +0300, Janne Junnila wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I just noticed that the spacing after ${\cal P}$ looks a bit too tight >> (non-existent?) while using XITS fonts. >> ... > > Looks fine here (in my eyes at least), can you attach the resulting PDF? > > Regards, > Khaled On this input: \setupbodyfont[xits] \starttext The spacing of ${\cal P}$ looks like this.\par The spacing of \vrule${\cal P}$\vrule looks like this. \stoptext I got similar to what Janne described. See attached (beta ver. 2012.05.29 00:12). Looks like the kerning might be a little off? Michael ________________________________ This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). [-- Attachment #2: foo1307.pdf --] [-- Type: application/pdf, Size: 7982 bytes --] [-- Attachment #3: Type: text/plain, Size: 485 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS 2012-05-29 12:29 ` Rogers, Michael K @ 2012-05-29 12:39 ` Khaled Hosny 2012-05-29 13:43 ` Andy Thomas 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Khaled Hosny @ 2012-05-29 12:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 839 bytes --] On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:29:02PM +0000, Rogers, Michael K wrote: > > On May 29, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote: > > > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 01:19:00PM +0300, Janne Junnila wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I just noticed that the spacing after ${\cal P}$ looks a bit too tight > >> (non-existent?) while using XITS fonts. > >> ... > > > > Looks fine here (in my eyes at least), can you attach the resulting PDF? > > > > Regards, > > Khaled > > On this input: > > \setupbodyfont[xits] > \starttext > The spacing of ${\cal P}$ looks like this.\par > The spacing of \vrule${\cal P}$\vrule looks like this. > \stoptext > > I got similar to what Janne described. See attached (beta ver. > 2012.05.29 00:12). Looks like the kerning might be a little off? Looks fine here, bot TL 2012 presets and up to date minimals. Regards, Khaled [-- Attachment #2: x.pdf --] [-- Type: application/pdf, Size: 7951 bytes --] [-- Attachment #3: Type: text/plain, Size: 485 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS 2012-05-29 12:39 ` Khaled Hosny @ 2012-05-29 13:43 ` Andy Thomas 2012-05-29 14:20 ` Rogers, Michael K 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Andy Thomas @ 2012-05-29 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hello, it looks off on my computer (Mac 10.6 with preview and acrobat) and with the context-standalone (from 1 hour ago). However, it does work with TL2011 (not 12). Then, I copied (overwrote) the fonts from TL into the standalone (from /Library/TeX/Root/texmf-dist/fonts/opentype/public/xits/ to ~/context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/xits/) and deleted the cache. But that did not help, the context standalone still produces the 'too-close P'. I also tried the newest font files from yesterday, but still no luck. Hope that help finding the bug. Andy P.S. Is there more to be considered than only the font files (the .otf s)? On 29.05.2012, at 14:39, Khaled Hosny wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:29:02PM +0000, Rogers, Michael K wrote: >> >> On May 29, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote: >> >>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 01:19:00PM +0300, Janne Junnila wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I just noticed that the spacing after ${\cal P}$ looks a bit too tight >>>> (non-existent?) while using XITS fonts. >>>> ... >>> >>> Looks fine here (in my eyes at least), can you attach the resulting PDF? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Khaled >> >> On this input: >> >> \setupbodyfont[xits] >> \starttext >> The spacing of ${\cal P}$ looks like this.\par >> The spacing of \vrule${\cal P}$\vrule looks like this. >> \stoptext >> >> I got similar to what Janne described. See attached (beta ver. >> 2012.05.29 00:12). Looks like the kerning might be a little off? > > Looks fine here, bot TL 2012 presets and up to date minimals. > > Regards, > Khaled > <x.pdf>___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS 2012-05-29 13:43 ` Andy Thomas @ 2012-05-29 14:20 ` Rogers, Michael K 2012-05-29 14:34 ` Janne Junnila 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Rogers, Michael K @ 2012-05-29 14:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users I'm using a Mac, too, with OSX 10.6, if that helps. On May 29, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Andy Thomas wrote: > Hello, > > it looks off on my computer (Mac 10.6 with preview and acrobat) and with the context-standalone (from 1 hour ago). However, it does work with TL2011 (not 12). > > Then, I copied (overwrote) the fonts from TL into the standalone (from /Library/TeX/Root/texmf-dist/fonts/opentype/public/xits/ to ~/context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/xits/) and deleted the cache. But that did not help, the context standalone still produces the 'too-close P'. I also tried the newest font files from yesterday, but still no luck. Hope that help finding the bug. > > Andy > > P.S. Is there more to be considered than only the font files (the .otf s)? > > > > On 29.05.2012, at 14:39, Khaled Hosny wrote: > >> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:29:02PM +0000, Rogers, Michael K wrote: >>> >>> On May 29, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 01:19:00PM +0300, Janne Junnila wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I just noticed that the spacing after ${\cal P}$ looks a bit too tight >>>>> (non-existent?) while using XITS fonts. >>>>> ... >>>> >>>> Looks fine here (in my eyes at least), can you attach the resulting PDF? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Khaled >>> >>> On this input: >>> >>> \setupbodyfont[xits] >>> \starttext >>> The spacing of ${\cal P}$ looks like this.\par >>> The spacing of \vrule${\cal P}$\vrule looks like this. >>> \stoptext >>> >>> I got similar to what Janne described. See attached (beta ver. >>> 2012.05.29 00:12). Looks like the kerning might be a little off? >> >> Looks fine here, bot TL 2012 presets and up to date minimals. >> >> Regards, >> Khaled >> <x.pdf>___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net >> archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS 2012-05-29 14:20 ` Rogers, Michael K @ 2012-05-29 14:34 ` Janne Junnila 2012-05-29 23:13 ` Khaled Hosny 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Janne Junnila @ 2012-05-29 14:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Doesn't seem to be only macs, I'm on Linux using the latest beta. The PDF I get is like the one Michael sent earlier. I tried other calligraphic letters with the vrules, and it seems that some of them have similar issues, just not as striking as with P. - Janne ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Spacing for {\cal P} in XITS 2012-05-29 14:34 ` Janne Junnila @ 2012-05-29 23:13 ` Khaled Hosny 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Khaled Hosny @ 2012-05-29 23:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 05:34:47PM +0300, Janne Junnila wrote: > Doesn't seem to be only macs, I'm on Linux using the latest beta. The > PDF I get is like the one Michael sent earlier. I tried other > calligraphic letters with the vrules, and it seems that some of them > have similar issues, just not as striking as with P. It was a bit buzzling, but I think I found it, it seems the lines: italics = { ["xits-math"] = italics, }, in xits-math.lfg (`mtxrun --find-file` to locate it), prevents the application of italic correction for some reason, removing it resolves the issue. I didn't experience it because I had a different xits-math.lfg in my ~/texmf tree. Hans, what those lines are supposed to do? Regards, Khaled ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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