* A problem with arranging pages
@ 2012-06-05 20:21 Marcin Borkowski
2012-06-05 20:43 ` Marco
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From: Marcin Borkowski @ 2012-06-05 20:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
I'm preparing a leaflet in ConTeXt. The leaflet is typeset in a
landscape orientation on an A6 sheet, and it is going to be printed 8
times on an A3 sheet. My problems are:
1. How to achieve such an effect using \setuparranging?
\setuparranging[2*8] didn't work for me. (I'm using MkIV; below is a
minimal example showing my problem.)
\setuppapersize[A6,landscape][A3]
\setuparranging[2*8]
\starttext
\dorecurse{15}{\input knuth }
\stoptext
2. I'd like to get crop marks, in this case short (5mm) lines showing
where to cut the sheet, located near the borders, but *within* the
printable area. How to achieve this?
Thanks in advance
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://mbork.pl
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* Re: A problem with arranging pages
2012-06-05 20:21 A problem with arranging pages Marcin Borkowski
@ 2012-06-05 20:43 ` Marco
2012-06-05 20:55 ` Marco
2012-06-05 20:56 ` Marcin Borkowski
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From: Marco @ 2012-06-05 20:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 2012-06-05 Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl> wrote:
> The leaflet is typeset in a
> landscape orientation on an A6 sheet, and it is going to be printed 8
> times on an A3 sheet.
The same leaflet? Then you don't need \setuparranging
\setuppapersize [A6,landscape] [A3]
\setuppagenumbering [location=]
\setupbackgrounds [page] [background=color, backgroundcolor=gray]
\setupbodyfont [sans, 58pt]
\setuplayout [nx=2, ny=4, marking=on]
\starttext
\dorecurse{4}
{\null\vfill\centerline\recurselevel\vfill\null\page}
\stoptext
> 2. I'd like to get crop marks, in this case short (5mm) lines showing
> where to cut the sheet, located near the borders, but *within* the
> printable area.
Since eight A6 pages exactly fit on one A3 page the crop marks can
only be *inside* the printable area. That means with marking=on
you'll see three marks in the middle of the page. When you also
want them to show up at the page borders, you have to fire up
MetaPost.
Marco
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* Re: A problem with arranging pages
2012-06-05 20:43 ` Marco
@ 2012-06-05 20:55 ` Marco
2012-06-05 21:19 ` Marco
2012-06-05 20:56 ` Marcin Borkowski
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From: Marco @ 2012-06-05 20:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 2012-06-05 Marco <netuse@lavabit.com> wrote:
> > 2. I'd like to get crop marks, in this case short (5mm) lines showing
> > where to cut the sheet, located near the borders, but *within* the
> > printable area.
>
> Since eight A6 pages exactly fit on one A3 page the crop marks can
> only be *inside* the printable area. That means with marking=on
> you'll see three marks in the middle of the page. When you also
> want them to show up at the page borders, you have to fire up
> MetaPost.
Or you can draw frames around the pages.
\setuppapersize [A6,landscape] [A3]
\setuppagenumbering [location=]
\setupbodyfont [sans, 58pt]
\setuplayout [nx=2, ny=4]
\setupbackgrounds [page] [background=cropmarks, setups=cropmarks]
\definelayer [cropmarks] [state=repeat]
\startsetups cropmarks
\doifoddpageelse{}{%
\setlayerframed [cropmarks]
[frame=off,
bottomframe=on,
leftframe=on,
width=\paperwidth,
height=\paperheight]{}}
\stopsetups
\starttext
\dorecurse{4}
{\null\vfill\centerline\recurselevel\vfill\null\page}
\stoptext
I don't know why the frame is missing on the first page.
Marco
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* Re: A problem with arranging pages
2012-06-05 20:43 ` Marco
2012-06-05 20:55 ` Marco
@ 2012-06-05 20:56 ` Marcin Borkowski
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From: Marcin Borkowski @ 2012-06-05 20:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Dnia 2012-06-05, wto o godzinie 22:43 +0200, Marco pisze:
> On 2012-06-05 Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl> wrote:
>
> > The leaflet is typeset in a
> > landscape orientation on an A6 sheet, and it is going to be printed 8
> > times on an A3 sheet.
>
> The same leaflet? Then you don't need \setuparranging
>
> \setuppapersize [A6,landscape] [A3]
>
> \setuppagenumbering [location=]
> \setupbackgrounds [page] [background=color, backgroundcolor=gray]
> \setupbodyfont [sans, 58pt]
> \setuplayout [nx=2, ny=4, marking=on]
>
> \starttext
> \dorecurse{4}
> {\null\vfill\centerline\recurselevel\vfill\null\page}
> \stoptext
Thanks a lot, it works like a charm!
> > 2. I'd like to get crop marks, in this case short (5mm) lines showing
> > where to cut the sheet, located near the borders, but *within* the
> > printable area.
>
> Since eight A6 pages exactly fit on one A3 page the crop marks can
> only be *inside* the printable area. That means with marking=on
> you'll see three marks in the middle of the page. When you also
> want them to show up at the page borders, you have to fire up
> MetaPost.
I was afraid of that... Any ideas how to achieve it? (I know a bit of
MetaPost, but I don't have any clue how to achieve this.)
> Marco
Greetings
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http://mbork.pl
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* Re: A problem with arranging pages
2012-06-05 20:55 ` Marco
@ 2012-06-05 21:19 ` Marco
2012-06-05 21:26 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Marco @ 2012-06-05 21:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 2012-06-05 Marco <netuse@lavabit.com> wrote:
> […]
>
> \startsetups cropmarks
> \doifoddpageelse{}{%
> \setlayerframed [cropmarks]
> [frame=off,
> bottomframe=on,
> leftframe=on,
> width=\paperwidth,
> height=\paperheight]{}}
> \stopsetups
>
> […]
>
> I don't know why the frame is missing on the first page.
\startsetups cropmarks
\setlayerframed [cropmarks]
[frame=off,
bottomframe=on,
leftframe=on,
width=\paperwidth,
height=\paperheight]{}
\stopsetups
This also prints the marks on the first page. If you want just short
crop marks instead of continuous lines, you really have to use
MetaPost.
Marco
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* Re: A problem with arranging pages
2012-06-05 21:19 ` Marco
@ 2012-06-05 21:26 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2012-06-05 21:36 ` Marco
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2012-06-05 21:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 05.06.2012 um 23:19 schrieb Marco:
> On 2012-06-05 Marco <netuse@lavabit.com> wrote:
>
>> […]
>>
>> \startsetups cropmarks
>> \doifoddpageelse{}{%
>> \setlayerframed [cropmarks]
>> [frame=off,
>> bottomframe=on,
>> leftframe=on,
>> width=\paperwidth,
>> height=\paperheight]{}}
>> \stopsetups
>>
>> […]
>>
>> I don't know why the frame is missing on the first page.
>
> \startsetups cropmarks
> \setlayerframed [cropmarks]
> [frame=off,
> bottomframe=on,
> leftframe=on,
> width=\paperwidth,
> height=\paperheight]{}
> \stopsetups
There is no need for layers because you can use \framed in a overlay
\setupbackgrounds [page] [background=cropmarks]
\defineoverlay [cropmarks] [{\framed[frame=off,bottomframe=on,leftframe=on,width=\overlaywidth,height=\overlayheight]{}}]
and even this is overkill because you can just enable the rules of the page frame
\setupbackgrounds [page] [leftframe=on,bottomframe=on]
Wolfgang
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* Re: A problem with arranging pages
2012-06-05 21:26 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2012-06-05 21:36 ` Marco
2012-06-05 21:44 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Marco @ 2012-06-05 21:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 2012-06-05 Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
> There is no need for layers because you can use \framed in a overlay
Sure I can do that. But what's the advantage of using an overlay?
I find layers to be more flexible.
> and even this is overkill because you can just enable the rules of the page frame
>
> \setupbackgrounds [page] [leftframe=on,bottomframe=on]
That's neat!
Marco
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* Re: A problem with arranging pages
2012-06-05 21:36 ` Marco
@ 2012-06-05 21:44 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2012-06-05 21:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 05.06.2012 um 23:36 schrieb Marco:
> On 2012-06-05 Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> There is no need for layers because you can use \framed in a overlay
>
> Sure I can do that. But what's the advantage of using an overlay?
In this case performance.
> I find layers to be more flexible.
1. When you define a layer a overlay with the same name is created because multiple layers are combined in an overlay.
2. You can combine a layer and an overlay to avoid the setups method (search for \tightlayer).
Wolfgang
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