From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/76905 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philipp Gesang Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Exceptions to assignment syntax [was: Re: labeltext assignment] Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:41:39 +0200 Message-ID: <20120612144139.GA3539@phlegethon> References: <20120611080127.GA30899@phlegethon> <4FD5B45F.20005@wxs.nl> <20120611190620.GA1410@phlegethon> <20120611213330.GB1410@phlegethon> <20120612134226.7e1a3ea2@homerow> <4FD74AEB.8000201@wxs.nl> <20120612162413.7ea0408d@homerow> <4FD7533A.7000908@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0391310680==" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1339512014 23521 80.91.229.3 (12 Jun 2012 14:40:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:40:14 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Jun 12 16:40:10 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SeSGQ-0007hk-6a for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:40:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D0D101E4; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:40:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Dq4dk9vC5Ciy; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:40:08 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3196101DF; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:40:07 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17084101DF for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:40:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id X2OxuliQnklh for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:40:05 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter4-ams.mf.surf.net (filter4-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.72]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F87101DD for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:40:05 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (relay2.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.210.211]) by filter4-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id q5CEkrTt003379 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:46:53 +0200 Original-Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (cyrus-portal.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.176]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q5CEe4Bp013182 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:40:04 +0200 Original-Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q5CEe4TA002047 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:40:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (dslb-188-104-130-013.pools.arcor-ip.net [188.104.130.13]) (authenticated bits=0) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q5CEe2R6019759 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:40:03 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <4FD7533A.7000908@wxs.nl> X-Operating-System: Linux phlegethon 3.3.7-1-ARCH X-License: "CC-BY-SA 3.0" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=129.206.210.211; country=DE; region=01; city=Heidelberg; latitude=49.4167; longitude=8.7000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=49.4167,8.7000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 01HlqKR18 - f23d617b0230 - 20120612 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.72 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:76905 Archived-At: --===============0391310680== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wac7ysb48OaltWcw" Content-Disposition: inline --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Hans! =C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7=C2=B7 > On 12-6-2012 16:24, Marco wrote: >=20 > >While you're at it, check \usesubpath as well. I didn't test, but > >assume it has the same issue. >=20 > uses the same code >=20 > >>>>As this is quite counterintuitive, I=E2=80=99d like to wikify any kno= wn > >>>>exceptions somewhere over here: > >>> > >>>How about unifying the interface? IMO that would make more sense > >>>then bury the =E2=80=9Ccaveats=E2=80=9D somewhere deep in the wiki. > >> > >>that's currently not feasable for all > > > >What's the reason? Performance of backwards compatibility? >=20 > more that we cannot use the regular parser >=20 > >Personally, I would sacrifice some runtime in favour of a more > >uniform interface. That's one of the main ideas that define ConTeXt > >and set it apart from other TeX macro packages. >=20 > if you have completed the list i can see what can be done otherwise I=E2=80=99ll be collecting candidates for the wiki page until saturday and then write up a draft, maybe submit it to the list for review first. I can draw up a preliminary list first so you can have a look at it. Philipp > (runtime is often not the reason esp not for macros that get used > only a few times in a run) >=20 > >Regarding the backwards compatibility, wasn't MkIV the chance to > >introduce incompatible changes (changes for improving the user > >interface :)? >=20 > sure >=20 > Hans >=20 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 >=20 > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to= the Wiki! >=20 > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-co= ntext > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ --=20 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk/XVSMACgkQ02lYlJYWs9J3qACfWryjl+uRbcmIES4Jmz0iB00+ knUAnR2JxN5arNijy6dPp7q/hF/JkILs =sDVJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wac7ysb48OaltWcw-- --===============0391310680== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ --===============0391310680==--