* Returning...need advice on manuals for MKIV @ 2012-07-15 20:04 john Culleton 2012-07-15 20:23 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 2012-07-16 6:24 ` Rogers, Michael K 0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: john Culleton @ 2012-07-15 20:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Returning after a long absence... Downloaded a fistful of manuals, concentrating on MKIV. One of these lists commands, and is dated 2012 which is promising. Many of these commands are not included in "Context, The Manual". So is there a manual or guide (or multiples) that expains these new commands? Let me put it a different way. If a person familiar with TeX but not Context wanted to use MKIV what documents beyond "Context the Manual" would that person need to understand and use Context for ordinary documents (like a book on another software project)? I use TexLive 2011 on a Slackware Linux platform. -- John Culleton ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Returning...need advice on manuals for MKIV 2012-07-15 20:04 Returning...need advice on manuals for MKIV john Culleton @ 2012-07-15 20:23 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 2012-07-16 16:51 ` john Culleton 2012-07-16 6:24 ` Rogers, Michael K 1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2012-07-15 20:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Am 2012-07-15 um 22:04 schrieb john Culleton: > I use TexLive 2011 on a Slackware Linux platform. If you’re serious about MkIV, install TeX Live 2012 or use Standalone. (If you don’t need LaTeX, the latter is enough.) Greetlings, Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Returning...need advice on manuals for MKIV 2012-07-15 20:23 ` Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2012-07-16 16:51 ` john Culleton 2012-07-16 20:26 ` Aditya Mahajan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: john Culleton @ 2012-07-16 16:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:23:00 +0200 Henning Hraban Ramm <hraban@fiee.net> wrote: > Am 2012-07-15 um 22:04 schrieb john Culleton: > > > I use TexLive 2011 on a Slackware Linux platform. > > If you___re serious about MkIV, install TeX Live 2012 or use > Standalone. (If you don___t need LaTeX, the latter is enough.) > > > > Greetlings, Hraban > --- > http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ > http://wiki.contextgarden.net > https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) > > Thanks! I found it easier to install TeXLive 2012 (more familiar.) The standalone.zip had some problems. I note from another post that there is an incomplete but more current manual. So I will print that out. The texlive 2012 is dated July 7 so I hope that the Context is up to date or close to it. My main concern is as always fonts. -- John Culleton Free list of books for self-publishers: http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html Police Procedural and Expose: "Death Wore Black" "Create Book Covers with Scribus" http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Returning...need advice on manuals for MKIV 2012-07-16 16:51 ` john Culleton @ 2012-07-16 20:26 ` Aditya Mahajan 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2012-07-16 20:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users > The standalone.zip had some problems. ConTeXt Standalone (or is it now ConTeXt Suite?) now refers to what was ConTeXt minimals. http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Standalone There is no standalone.zip; so perhaps you tried the old standalone distributed by Hans. Aditya ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Returning...need advice on manuals for MKIV 2012-07-15 20:04 Returning...need advice on manuals for MKIV john Culleton 2012-07-15 20:23 ` Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2012-07-16 6:24 ` Rogers, Michael K 2012-07-16 17:27 ` Philipp Gesang 1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Rogers, Michael K @ 2012-07-16 6:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users I'm familiar with TeX, not with LaTeX, and started ConTeXt last December. Here are what I've found most useful: 1. In my TeXLive 2011, there is texlive/2011/texmf-dist/doc/context/manuals/reference/en/contextref.pdf, dated July 2011 and unfinished. (The change to MKIV is immense and has outpaced the documentation.) 2. There is the wiki, which has some more current information about commands as well as gaps: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page 3. And then there is the source, which has some helpful comments in it. The explanation of the system macros, http://tex.aanhet.net/context/syst-gen-doc.pdf, has been helpful in many ways, including guessing at what the source is about. 4. This mailing list. Aside from these, some things particularly related to my interests (tables, XML) have been helpful. If you're interested in using MetaPost for graphics, there's John Hobby's MetaPost manual and Hans Hagen's ConTeXt-related Metafun manual (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Metapost). If you're interested in using Lua, see the LuaTeX manual and ConTeXt interface to Lua (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Lua) as well as the Lua manual (lua.org). Hope that helps, Michael On Jul 15, 2012, at 1:04 PM, john Culleton wrote: > Returning after a long absence... > > Downloaded a fistful of manuals, concentrating on MKIV. One of > these lists commands, and is dated 2012 which is promising. Many > of these commands are not included in "Context, The Manual". So > is there a manual or guide (or multiples) that expains these new > commands? > > Let me put it a different way. If a person familiar with TeX but > not Context wanted to use MKIV what documents beyond "Context > the Manual" would that person need to understand and use Context > for ordinary documents (like a book on another software project)? > > I use TexLive 2011 on a Slackware Linux platform. > -- > John Culleton > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Returning...need advice on manuals for MKIV 2012-07-16 6:24 ` Rogers, Michael K @ 2012-07-16 17:27 ` Philipp Gesang 2012-07-17 15:33 ` Rogers, Michael K 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Philipp Gesang @ 2012-07-16 17:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 843 bytes --] ···<date: 2012-07-16, Monday>···<from: Rogers, Michael K>··· > 3. And then there is the source, which has some helpful > comments in it. The explanation of the system macros, > http://tex.aanhet.net/context/syst-gen-doc.pdf, has been helpful > in many ways, including guessing at what the source is about. Fwiw Taco’s “System Macros” is part of the wiki as well: <http://wiki.contextgarden.net/System_Macros>. As it was written with MkII in mind, you might want to check the definitions in syst-aux.mkiv in your /context/base/ directory if they are still around and, if applicable, what their replacement is (\@EA and family come to my mind that have been purged from MkIV). Regards Philipp -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 198 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 485 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Returning...need advice on manuals for MKIV 2012-07-16 17:27 ` Philipp Gesang @ 2012-07-17 15:33 ` Rogers, Michael K 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Rogers, Michael K @ 2012-07-17 15:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Philipp Gesang wrote: > ···<date: 2012-07-16, Monday>···<from: Rogers, Michael K>··· > >> 3. And then there is the source, which has some helpful >> comments in it. The explanation of the system macros, >> http://tex.aanhet.net/context/syst-gen-doc.pdf, has been helpful >> in many ways, including guessing at what the source is about. > > Fwiw Taco’s “System Macros” is part of the wiki as well: > <http://wiki.contextgarden.net/System_Macros>. As it was written > with MkII in mind, you might want to check the definitions in > syst-aux.mkiv in your /context/base/ directory if they are > still around and, if applicable, what their replacement is (\@EA > and family come to my mind that have been purged from MkIV). > > Regards > Philipp Thanks for the tip. ________________________________ This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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