From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/78355 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marco Patzer Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Bibliography, unicode strings, @ELECTRONIC, sorting and bibtex Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:28:58 +0200 Message-ID: <20120918122858.265bbad1@homerow> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1347964158 21729 80.91.229.3 (18 Sep 2012 10:29:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:29:18 +0000 (UTC) To: context Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Sep 18 12:29:20 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TDv3O-0006Kn-6K for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:29:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9891A101E6; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:29:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id j9M-unm-Re34; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:29:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93FC4101EB; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:29:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B0F7101EB for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:29:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id mBgPGTzeb7iN for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:29:05 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter2-utr.mf.surf.net (filter2-utr.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.153]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072E0101E6 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:29:04 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from karen.lavabit.com (karen.lavabit.com [72.249.41.33]) by filter2-utr.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id q8IAT2W1029958 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 12:29:03 +0200 Original-Received: from e.earth.lavabit.com (e.earth.lavabit.com [192.168.111.14]) by karen.lavabit.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F49111BB77 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 05:29:01 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from homerow (miun114-193.dynamic.miun.se [193.10.114.193]) by lavabit.com with ESMTP id IE2XP1K3OIYV for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 05:29:01 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lavabit; d=lavabit.com; b=n/SbZKFkQI+8KfuL+7xdxcliUrMZDdVoTg2WtcDNGoINAbGCl+XbUTQnrASAq9q9HVHWhDaxs6NCR8vJkpzOnAmHVzgwcjSzCfkNBoXoV3UlUbDzDwhCBsHZbAyIUteW04xCSL9qzbRlqVdRmIYbCw7HDVWVELi5fpSmwTYch3g=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=72.249.41.33; country=US; region=TX; city=Dallas; postalcode=75206; latitude=32.8339; longitude=-96.7715; metrocode=623; areacode=214; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=32.8339,-96.7715&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 04I0yt2xK - 6ab25b8637bc - 20120918 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 195.169.124.153 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:78355 Archived-At: Hi, I have some questions regarding the bibliography. 1) The style files bibl-ams.tex, bibl-ssa.tex, etc contain strings like ``, ~. This does not make sense to me. The `` ends up like that in the output and the tilde might interfere with the \asciimode setting. Wouldn't it be better to use the proper Unicode glyphs (U+201C, U+00A0, etc.) nowadays? I assume the files are old MkII files and not being updated since. Example: \setupbibtex [database=sample] \setuppublications [alternative=ssa] \starttext \cite[hh2010a] \cite[Eijkhout1991] \cite[hh2010] \placepublications [criterium=cite] \stoptext 2) The @ELECTRONIC type does not work (already mentioned in the wiki). It does not show up in the references list. I guess no one bothered adding them and it's up to me to add the corresponding entries. Maybe someone has already prepared a working file for the APA style? 3) How to sort the bibliography by author? According to the bib manual I expected this to work: \setupbibtex [database=sample] \setuppublications [alternative=apa, criterium=cite, sort=author] \starttext \cite[hh2010a] \cite[Eijkhout1991] \placepublications \stoptext 4) \completepublications produces an empty page. Is that intended? \setupbibtex [database=sample] \setuppublications [alternative=ssa, criterium=cite] \starttext \cite[hh2010a] \completepublications \stoptext 5) (side question) What is BibTeX used for in ConTeXt? As far as I can see, it reads the .bib database and generates a .bbl file which then is read in by ConTeXt. Why do we need an external tool for this? Why does ConTeXt not read in the .bib database and directly save it as a Lua table? Marco ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________