From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/78374 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philipp Gesang Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Proposal: making [[article]] and [[Article]] equivalent on the wiki Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:13:51 +0200 Message-ID: <20120919121351.GA15279@phlegethon.router_intern> References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1305424481==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1348056844 32533 80.91.229.3 (19 Sep 2012 12:14:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:14:04 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Sep 19 14:14:09 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TEJAO-0000ZZ-26 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:14:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941291025B; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:14:03 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id sw40GRzatrz1; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:14:00 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8600101EF; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:14:00 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91DAE101EF for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:13:59 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id MQPfHuRKFVLZ for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:13:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter3-utr.mf.surf.net (filter3-utr.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.154]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56EE101EB for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:13:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de (relay.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.212]) by filter3-utr.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id q8JCDu0B012142 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:13:57 +0200 Original-Received: from ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (cyrus-portal.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.176]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8JCDtBJ030311 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:13:56 +0200 Original-Received: from extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.100.140]) by ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q8JCDtFQ022050 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:13:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (p508470F1.dip.t-dialin.net [80.132.112.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by extmail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id q8JCDs0b005673 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:13:54 +0200 Mail-Followup-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: Linux phlegethon 3.5.3-1-ARCH X-License: "CC-BY-SA 3.0" User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.5 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=129.206.100.212; country=DE; region=01; city=Heidelberg; latitude=49.4167; longitude=8.7000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=49.4167,8.7000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: Bayes signature not available X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 195.169.124.154 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:78374 Archived-At: --===============1305424481== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =B7=B7=B7=B7=B7=B7=B7=B7= =B7 > Hello, all, >=20 > The wiki currently has $wgCapitalLinks =3D false; meaning that if one > wishes to link to e.g. [[Columns]] inside a sentence one must write > "See the [[Columns|columns]] article." And if one links to another > article, one must remember whether its title is lowercase, Titlecase, > or if it doesn't matter because a redirect exists. >=20 > Proposal: > I propose we set > $wgCapitalLinks =3D true; > $wgCapitalLinkOverrides[ NS_FILE ] =3D false; +1, great idea! Thanks Philipp > This will make writing a link as [[Article]] or [[article]] both > correct, but retain case sensitivity in the rest of the article title. > In the file namespace, however, case sensitivity will be retained for > the entire name, so that people won't have to download e.g. > "T-lilypond.tex". >=20 > Motivation below. Comments, agreement, disagreement welcome. > Cheers, > Sietse >=20 > Motivation: > Redirects can (and do) solve this, and so can changing the link, but > that is busywork that nobody should have to do. > Setting $wgCapitalLinks =3D true is a robust solution. Article titles > will remain case-sensitive, except for the first letter, meaning >=20 > * no more trying to remember whether an article is located at > [[lowercase]] or at [[Titlecase]] > * no more creating redirects from [[lowercase]] to [[Titlecase]] or vice = versa > * you can always use the simplest wikilink, because [[Columns]] and > [[columns]] both work correctly. > * article titles will consistently be displayed in Titlecase > * for titles that should start in lowercase, such as [[texexec]] or > [[first-setup]], we'll need to add e.g. {{DISPLAYTITLE:texexec}}. >=20 > For the file namespace, it is preferable that case-sensitivity remains > on, especially for .tex and .zip files such as > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/File:T-lilypond.tex > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/index.php?title=3DSpecial%3APrefixIndex&pre= fix=3D&namespace=3D6 > (The large amount of Titlecased filenames in that list is because in > the early days of this wiki, $wgCapitalLinks was also true > everywhere.) > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to= the Wiki! >=20 > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-co= ntext > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ --=20 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlBZtv8ACgkQ02lYlJYWs9JQ9QCfefzHXW96Q/L3afUAefYhsgGX h8AAn2snOvMK9WWm7sfmgbK9Nkk4UfUk =DjBD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ-- --===============1305424481== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ --===============1305424481==--