From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/79126 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Pontus Lurcock Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: \chapter{} vs \startchapter..\stopchapter Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 15:10:24 +0000 Message-ID: <20121110151024.GB14468@rae.vm.bytemark.co.uk> References: <509C0CC3.8040200@meahan.net> <509D47A8.6020104@meahan.net> <509D4C4F.4060808@meahan.net> <20121110085447.1fd15f24@iram-hb-003386.extra.cea.fr> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1352560231 15036 80.91.229.3 (10 Nov 2012 15:10:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 15:10:31 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sat Nov 10 16:10:41 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TXChl-0007QH-DZ for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:10:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF02102D4; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:10:31 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 4cRcFE9D9BzE; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:10:29 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B321024C; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:10:29 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658771024C for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:10:27 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id zT4ZqbEHedgd for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:10:26 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter1-utr.mf.surf.net (filter1-utr.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.152]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7012710242 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:10:26 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from rae.talvi.net (lumi.talvi.net [IPv6:2001:41c8:1:5986::10]) by filter1-utr.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id qAAFAP0R029123 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:10:25 +0100 Original-Received: from pont by rae.talvi.net with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TXChU-0003fb-R2 for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 15:10:24 +0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121110085447.1fd15f24@iram-hb-003386.extra.cea.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0011 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=2001:41c8:1:5986::10; country=GB X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 07IlPaphO - ee5795cb4725 - 20121110 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:79126 Archived-At: On Sat 10 Nov 2012, Alan BRASLAU wrote: > Given our interest in pdf production, perhaps we ought to be (more) > involved in opensource pdf viewer development? But I suppose that > acrobat and adobe reader remain the tools having the most widespread > use. It would certainly be nice to have an open-source PDF viewer approaching Adove Reader's capabilities. I've never seen any moves in this direction, though. The impression I have is that 99% of people only need very basic PDF viewer functionality, and regard most of Adobe Reader's features as bloat. Personally I find this worrying: I'm using Adobe Reader 9 on Linux, Adobe aren't going to release any newer Linux versions, and at some point I will run into a feature I need which is not supported either by AR9 or any open-source viewer. Pont ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________