From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/80139 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marco Patzer Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Place an annotation before it is defined Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 23:20:47 +0100 Message-ID: <20130107222047.GA11551@homerow> References: <20130107212015.GV11551@homerow> <20130107215632.GY11551@homerow> <87DDD6CB-0971-4B5D-A523-84A1B820DE70@gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0691696787==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1357597263 16767 80.91.229.3 (7 Jan 2013 22:21:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 22:21:03 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Jan 07 23:21:20 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TsL4B-0002vG-OO for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 23:21:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA1110270; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 23:20:56 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Mdb1FA7Hrdun; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 23:20:55 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093211025E; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 23:20:55 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250291025E for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 23:20:53 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id URt1vkYwjiiw for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 23:20:52 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter1-ams.mf.surf.net (filter1-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.69]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64ADA101EE for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 23:20:52 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from karen.lavabit.com (karen.lavabit.com [72.249.41.33]) by filter1-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r07MKofQ006345 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 23:20:51 +0100 Original-Received: from c.earth.lavabit.com (c.earth.lavabit.com [192.168.111.12]) by karen.lavabit.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585D811BBDF for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 16:20:50 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from homerow (83.68.239.193) by lavabit.com with ESMTP id ZHZUDH6P57RN for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 16:20:50 -0600 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lavabit; d=lavabit.com; b=X1wW2Xi3x1Keypj9kxWpqS4Md5FxSsJpp07IKVynmwfz6MgAUl0GZrRn2JeqNrVw1sHi/UggZQXJr1/L5FIulbWKaGa9GxDPWfgdNFMm9163bZuyRVb8dDzbeWtZIhRkcUueZpKPm+aMFPhiq3Wk3Z2vn+ctF857WTa3fITvro4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent; Mail-Followup-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl In-Reply-To: <87DDD6CB-0971-4B5D-A523-84A1B820DE70@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=72.249.41.33; country=US; region=TX; city=Dallas; postalcode=75204; latitude=32.8019; longitude=-96.7883; metrocode=623; areacode=214; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=32.8019,-96.7883&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0NIJakPTv - a3a954816e60 - 20130107 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.69 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:80139 Archived-At: --===============0691696787== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fKtH0JUtvN5p2ETH" Content-Disposition: inline --fKtH0JUtvN5p2ETH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2013=E2=80=9301=E2=80=9307 Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > > Blocks, in contrast to buffers, seem to be able to place content > > before it is defined. I did not check how they work, but since I > > didn't see any temporary files, the only possibility is to write the > > data to the tuc file, I assume. It is by any chance possible to > > provide a =E2=80=9Cmethod=3Dblock=E2=80=9D? >=20 > Yes, blocks are stored in the tux-file while buffers are only stored in m= emory. >=20 > I played for a while with \setdataset to store the content but dropped it= because > it required multiple runs and especially in the first run the output woul= d be always > wrong That's no problem IMO. Two-pass data is always wrong the first run. In the worst case, it needs an additional run if text moves around too much. But since it's just another method, which is optional, this only applies if it's activated and then the user knows what he/she is doing and that it might be slower. > I can consider it as a optional method. I think it would be a nice feature. It enables placement of elements where they logically belong, instead of where they are supposed to be printed. It's nothing mission critical though, but you can keep it in mind for a rainy afternoon. 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