From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/82146 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Khaled Hosny Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Adobe Garamond Problems with letter combination "fi" Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 00:49:18 +0200 Message-ID: <20130426224918.GA820@khaled-laptop> References: <9800EA92-858D-426E-A9AC-F8C0FD29E6AA@gmail.com> <5B0920D4-0441-4D2E-BC5F-1A1290662454@web.de> <5178D398.7050209@uni-bonn.de> <8D07355B-7A3D-4CB2-B164-C326610D5928@web.de> <20130426082054.GB2471@khaled-laptop> <20130426182742.GB13957@khaled-laptop> <18482110-F93A-412C-B4A5-E8C5C7DE7EA9@web.de> <517AFCCA.4030409@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1367016569 15449 80.91.229.3 (26 Apr 2013 22:49:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 22:49:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Mojca Miklavec To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sat Apr 27 00:49:33 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UVrSP-0000HS-60 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 00:49:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1FB101E0; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 00:49:32 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id paf8Q6g19-up; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 00:49:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C9C101E4; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 00:49:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7569101E4 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 00:49:29 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id r53Ryb09d7bp for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 00:49:28 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter1-utr.mf.surf.net (filter1-utr.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.152]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8475101E0 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 00:49:28 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-ea0-x236.google.com (mail-ea0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c01::236]) by filter1-utr.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r3QMnRWR020202 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 00:49:27 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-ea0-f182.google.com with SMTP id r16so1911882ead.13 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:49:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=xUP+Q+NGqhDTJoL8wCW0G2zKI9mSmiJuK7qOmSxsbwk=; b=C97PyHm3vSKDLB4yJBQCNjRyak1Vtaq/PlnpwISfKXEXHuErROk7xI2Jl4pW2+EVu9 QslWuKxIzCdG6d67236GJSJ4gY35ac3YBOEC+dJDasw/b1Pf3BY7/uUGtND0thMA0BLD srKg6VK0i7XhmLZJuE8ySBpvcOurH6c/NNVtpXi084n2ddrVtmV3TJ/WN2JRJkNNac5C OD3Tm797qC+S/Y2XQP/Y8Ehmee8BouI9cLHisOQEJukjCf90oibk8RArZnUNzrgirmtW Mk3ti6P9JgAnHeRgY6/bKaRy2NSiF4IfuGP/2o6aiv5F72TK/fWzcm93UodXPNHdl/20 2a6g== X-Received: by 10.15.36.2 with SMTP id h2mr92948419eev.2.1367016567201; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost ([217.55.70.243]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d47sm18516803eem.9.2013.04.26.15.49.24 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:49:26 -0700 (PDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <517AFCCA.4030409@wxs.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=2a00:1450:4013:c01::236; country=IE X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 07JsKNrKs - 4a1296c150e8 - 20130427 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:82146 Archived-At: On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 12:16:42AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 4/26/2013 11:48 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > > >I consider this (the fact that one doesn't notice it) part of a good > >design. It's similar with kerning: one doesn't notice it until/unless > >it's bad. It's similar in the kitchen also. One doesn't notice that > > but i assume, as you were involved in lucida ot, that you know that > this font has no kerns .. Which shows what an excellent job Bigelow & Holmes did in designing and spacing the glyphs, and it is also one of the few typefaces that does not even need f-ligatures :) > nowadays when i read some novel with excessive expansion, inter > character spacing and whatever, i always doubt it has been done by a > badly configured in-design or equally bad configured tex I have seen a couple of those books with excessive use of expansion, you notice it at glance and it becomes very irritating, so I now avoid expansion altogether (the books were in Arabic, so most probably it was InDesign). 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