From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/83962 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marco Patzer Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Typesetting Classical Arabic Poetry Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 20:06:29 +0200 Message-ID: <20130826180629.GV18239@homerow> References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0527340760==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1377540414 30955 80.91.229.3 (26 Aug 2013 18:06:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 18:06:54 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Aug 26 20:06:58 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.229]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VE1Bp-0000sr-Ja for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 20:06:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5119F1020F; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 20:05:40 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id RnvZFRDmbPCX; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 20:05:38 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72EF510207; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 20:05:38 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0E210207 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 20:05:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id PlLvlJ60zT0T for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 20:05:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter3-til.mf.surf.net (filter3-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.219]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E5A10206 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 20:05:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from forward1l.mail.yandex.net (forward1l.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1819::1]) by filter3-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r7QI6X3H021560 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 20:06:34 +0200 Original-Received: from smtp7.mail.yandex.net (smtp7.mail.yandex.net [77.88.61.55]) by forward1l.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 891941520DBF for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 22:06:32 +0400 (MSK) Original-Received: from smtp7.mail.yandex.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp7.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 4945015807E5 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 22:06:32 +0400 (MSK) Original-Received: from unknown (unknown [83.68.239.193]) by smtp7.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id gBxQFDO3T0-6VxS72kh; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 22:06:31 +0400 Mail-Followup-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB8CFCB65D4F08C27 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=2a02:6b8:0:1819::1; country=RU X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 06Khu6xpb - ff5e2e3b1465 - 20130826 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:83962 Archived-At: --===============0527340760== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9+ohdFDUqiMJzwPo" Content-Disposition: inline --9+ohdFDUqiMJzwPo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2013=E2=80=9308=E2=80=9326 J. R. Schmid wrote: > I've played around with your module and ran into some problems > which may have been due to my inexperiencedness with ConTeXt > (rupturing of ligatures, at least with Scheherazade and > inconsistent line height). Marco has been helping me though, and > it looks like he solved those problems while improving on your > module while doing so. He doesn't seem to be done with it yet and > perhaps he'll want to reply himself when he is, so I'll leave it > at that for now :-) I don't do any Arabic typesetting myself, but I wrapped Idris' idea into a nicer interface=C2=B9. Since I don't use it myself, I'll leave it like that until I receive feedback or improvement suggestions. There's no documentation yet, as I don't know how useful this is in the first place. In contrast to Latin script, justifying Arabic text is not solely achieved by varying the inter-word space, but also by means of elongating particular glyps=C2=B2. After having read Idris' article=C2=B3 it seems like this is a font feature. However, I have no idea which particular feature is responsible for the elongation and how many fonts actually have it. I could not find the mentioned Husayni font anywhere, which seems to be able to do this. So for the time being the justification is only done by varying the inter-word space. Arabic is beautiful! Marco =C2=B9 https://github.com/mpfusion/context-arabic-verse =C2=B2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashida =C2=B3 https://www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb31-2/tb98hamid.pdf --9+ohdFDUqiMJzwPo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSG5klAAoJEPGqVaNSn0iKUYsIAJTl7lf76jC6rjIYKhPEVDxR tUa+SsWOmM5S6sjCQeKJqq3Bud/rPjpwv6rLVDZNvNwfHvj2C2KCLGb+DjlZJ3eZ m4n9Kuf10kJIXO8zF88ofPFOMqn40Tg8V1GOW4xWqB7laG706tiQABTRo5cgpViw rJC85Ox2RsYit3bi1qiiKQ+08w9URPXupYgwNAzDRxJnuL5IykzCWUkHisQG+SwU enD43I3WRjR2Fx5KOK9R7uk2bVE8yE0O4a2aWyDhLNhFBy3opo2kmTZiHBvhufJ4 roE2jJk/tI+cIkSjiPWn2nr5YJ4foVPLlp6A9Zj3vmZYsiXLxhbnnBxUb9ROg4E= =DGrR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9+ohdFDUqiMJzwPo-- --===============0527340760== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ --===============0527340760==--