* Standalone Installation Question
@ 2013-10-20 7:52 hwitloc
2013-10-20 8:58 ` luigi scarso
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: hwitloc @ 2013-10-20 7:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
I downloaded and ran:
$ sh ./$SETUPFILE --modules=all --engine=luatex --context=current
#
# The documentation on web page [ http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Standalone#General_Information ] statess that:
" An intialization script called setuptex is provided in installation-dir/tex/.
" If you run context from a terminal, source setuptex like so:
" source /installation-dir/tex/setuptex "
BUT, first-setup.sh did not produce and populate any ./tex directory and there is no
setuptex command file.
What can I do to proceed from this point. Currently the /installation directory contains:
Reference: first-setup.sh produces the following files and directory structure:
$ ls -l
drwxrwxrwx+ 1 djtm None 0 Oct 20 16:09 .
drwxr-xr-x 1 djh Users 0 Oct 20 14:06 ..
drwxr-xr-x+ 1 djh None 0 Aug 7 16:40 bin
-rwxr-xr-- 1 djh None 3654 Jun 20 22:27 first-setup.sh
$ $ ls -l bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 999424 Nov 23 2012 cygiconv-2.dll
-rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 1873396 Nov 23 2012 cygwin1.dll
-rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 72192 Aug 14 09:29 kpathsea620.dll
-rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 338944 Aug 14 10:32 lua52.dll
-rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 6889472 Sep 28 07:03 luatex.dll
-rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 7680 Apr 16 2013 mtxrun.dll
-rwxr-xr-x 1 djh None 4608 Apr 16 2013 mtxrun.exe
-rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 497742 Oct 15 20:54 mtxrun.lua
-rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 25352 Oct 8 06:31 mtx-update.lua
-rwxr-xr-x 1 djh None 346112 Nov 23 2012 rsync.exe
-rwxr-xr-x 1 djh None 1536 Jun 24 22:41 texlua.exe
-------- END
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread* Re: Standalone Installation Question 2013-10-20 7:52 Standalone Installation Question hwitloc @ 2013-10-20 8:58 ` luigi scarso 2013-10-20 9:23 ` d.henman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2013-10-20 8:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1856 bytes --] On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 9:52 AM, <hwitloc@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I downloaded and ran: > > $ sh ./$SETUPFILE --modules=all --engine=luatex --context=current > > # > # The documentation on web page [ > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Standalone#General_Information ] > statess that: > > " An intialization script called setuptex is provided in > installation-dir/tex/. > " If you run context from a terminal, source setuptex like so: > " source /installation-dir/tex/setuptex " > > BUT, first-setup.sh did not produce and populate any ./tex directory and > there is no > setuptex command file. > > What can I do to proceed from this point. Currently the /installation > directory contains: > > Reference: first-setup.sh produces the following files and directory > structure: > > $ ls -l > drwxrwxrwx+ 1 djtm None 0 Oct 20 16:09 . > drwxr-xr-x 1 djh Users 0 Oct 20 14:06 .. > drwxr-xr-x+ 1 djh None 0 Aug 7 16:40 bin > -rwxr-xr-- 1 djh None 3654 Jun 20 22:27 first-setup.sh > > > $ $ ls -l bin > -rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 999424 Nov 23 2012 cygiconv-2.dll > -rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 1873396 Nov 23 2012 cygwin1.dll > -rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 72192 Aug 14 09:29 kpathsea620.dll > -rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 338944 Aug 14 10:32 lua52.dll > -rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 6889472 Sep 28 07:03 luatex.dll > -rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 7680 Apr 16 2013 mtxrun.dll > -rwxr-xr-x 1 djh None 4608 Apr 16 2013 mtxrun.exe > -rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 497742 Oct 15 20:54 mtxrun.lua > -rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 25352 Oct 8 06:31 mtx-update.lua > -rwxr-xr-x 1 djh None 346112 Nov 23 2012 rsync.exe > -rwxr-xr-x 1 djh None 1536 Jun 24 22:41 texlua.exe > > -------- END > hm first-setup.sh is for Linux, but you have a set of Windows files... so which platform do you need ? -- luigi [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2540 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 485 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Standalone Installation Question 2013-10-20 8:58 ` luigi scarso @ 2013-10-20 9:23 ` d.henman 2013-10-20 9:46 ` luigi scarso 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: d.henman @ 2013-10-20 9:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users My platform is cygwin, which gives Posix compatibility. The inital loading shell script noticed thsi provided the cygwin dll. If necessary, I can build from source if available. But, ts possile that x86 would work due the the cygwin interface, but I'm not sure. What to do to complete the installation? Thanks ---- >From luigi scarso : > On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 9:52 AM, <hwitloc@gmail.com> wrote: > > I downloaded and ran: > > $ sh ./$SETUPFILE --modules=all --engine=luatex --context=current > > # > # The documentation on web page [ > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Standalone#General_Information > ] statess that: > > " An intialization script called setuptex is provided in > installation-dir/tex/. > " If you run context from a terminal, source setuptex like so: > " source /installation-dir/tex/setuptex " > > BUT, first-setup.sh did not produce and populate any ./tex > directory and there is no > setuptex command file. > > What can I do to proceed from this point. Currently the > /installation directory contains: > > Reference: first-setup.sh produces the following files and > directory structure: > > $ ls -l > drwxrwxrwx+ 1 djtm None 0 Oct 20 16:09 . > drwxr-xr-x 1 djh Users 0 Oct 20 14:06 .. > drwxr-xr-x+ 1 djh None 0 Aug 7 16:40 bin > -rwxr-xr-- 1 djh None 3654 Jun 20 22:27 first-setup.sh > > > $ $ ls -l bin > -rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 999424 Nov 23 2012 cygiconv-2.dll > -rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 1873396 Nov 23 2012 cygwin1.dll > -rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 72192 Aug 14 09:29 kpathsea620.dll > -rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 338944 Aug 14 10:32 lua52.dll > -rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 6889472 Sep 28 07:03 luatex.dll > -rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 7680 Apr 16 2013 mtxrun.dll > -rwxr-xr-x 1 djh None 4608 Apr 16 2013 mtxrun.exe > -rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 497742 Oct 15 20:54 mtxrun.lua > -rw-r--r-- 1 djh None 25352 Oct 8 06:31 mtx-update.lua > -rwxr-xr-x 1 djh None 346112 Nov 23 2012 rsync.exe > -rwxr-xr-x 1 djh None 1536 Jun 24 22:41 texlua.exe > > -------- END > > hm first-setup.sh is for Linux, but you have a set of Windows files... > so which platform do you need ? > > -- > luigi > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Standalone Installation Question 2013-10-20 9:23 ` d.henman @ 2013-10-20 9:46 ` luigi scarso 2013-10-20 13:54 ` hwitloc 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2013-10-20 9:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1048 bytes --] On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 11:23 AM, d.henman <dhenman@gmail.com> wrote: > > My platform is cygwin, which gives Posix compatibility. The inital > loading shell script noticed thsi provided the cygwin dll. > > If necessary, I can build from source if available. But, ts possile that > x86 would work due the the cygwin interface, but I'm not sure. > > What to do to complete the installation? > > Thanks > > > IIUC http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Standalone#General_Information Cygwin is under Windows, so you have first to install the windows version and then run it under cywin Windows Use ConTeXt with Cygwin """ After installing the ConTeXt suite, you can run it under Cygwin. With Cygwin, you may use gmake and other Unix tools for your automated workflow. 1. Run setuptex.bat in DOS command prompt 2. In the same DOS prompt, enter Cygwin by running cygwin.bat (in your Cygwin installation directory) 3. Under Cygwin prompt, run context.cmd test.tex . Note that the .cmdextension is needed under Cygwin. """ -- luigi [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1665 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 485 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Standalone Installation Question 2013-10-20 9:46 ` luigi scarso @ 2013-10-20 13:54 ` hwitloc 2013-10-20 14:05 ` luigi scarso 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: hwitloc @ 2013-10-20 13:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Yes I saw the Windows version of Context mentioned and read it, but the documentation is, in this case, wrong or not fully correct. This is because I am now using Context which comes is included in the TexLive distribution, selected with Unix like operating systems. No bat files or other ancillary code or invokations are necessary. Texlive's Context program would probably not run directly on Microsoft Windows O.S. I believe that the documentation can be expanded to cover using a Context on Cygwin directly and not the Microsoft port which requires the usage of strange Microsoft pathnames, with C:\ and \ seperators. Using context on cygwin for cygwin may only have been done in TexLive for Unix like systems, but I'd like to use and test on the bleeding edge MKIV. But, that proves that it can be done. I just don't know what was done. So, perhaps I should ask if anyone knows how TexLive packages Context so that it runs directly with the cygwin environment. It might be terribly difficult in which case I will not do it for lack of knowledge and time. In what form is Context supplied to TexLive? Maybe I'd have to build Context on this cygwin platform to use it. That is what I am looking into. Any ideas or information? luigi scarso > On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 11:23 AM, > > My platform is cygwin, which gives Posix compatibility. The inital > loading shell script noticed thsi provided the cygwin dll. > > If necessary, I can build from source if available. But, ts > possile that x86 would work due the the cygwin interface, but I'm > not sure. > > What to do to complete the installation? > > Thanks > > > IIUC > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Standalone#General_Information > Cygwin is under Windows, so you have first to install the windows > version > and then run it under cywin > Windows > Use ConTeXt with Cygwin > > """ > > After installing the ConTeXt suite, you can run it under Cygwin. With > Cygwin, you may use gmake and other Unix tools for your automated > workflow. > > 1 Run setuptex.bat in DOS command prompt > > 2 In the same DOS prompt, enter Cygwin by running cygwin.bat (in your > Cygwin installation directory) > > 3 Under Cygwin prompt, run context.cmd test.tex . Note that the .cmd > extension is needed under Cygwin. > > """ > > -- > luigi > ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Standalone Installation Question 2013-10-20 13:54 ` hwitloc @ 2013-10-20 14:05 ` luigi scarso 2013-10-20 16:06 ` hwitloc 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2013-10-20 14:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1211 bytes --] On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 3:54 PM, <hwitloc@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes I saw the Windows version of Context mentioned and read it, but the > documentation is, > in this case, wrong or not fully correct. This is because I am now using > Context which comes is included in the TexLive distribution, selected with > Unix like operating systems. No bat files or other ancillary code or > invokations are necessary. > > Texlive's Context program would probably not run directly on Microsoft > Windows O.S. > hm, my experience is the opposite: texlive context runs on Windows, but I don't use it because the standalone also works under Windows. (I use the texlive for all the rest, btw). I believe that the documentation can be expanded to cover using a Context > on Cygwin directly and not the Microsoft port which requires the usage of > strange Microsoft pathnames, with C:\ and \ seperators. > > Using context on cygwin for cygwin may only have been done in TexLive for > Unix like systems, but I'd like to use and test on the bleeding edge MKIV. > But, that proves that it can be done. I just don't know what was done. > > In this case I think it's better to use the standalone directly on Windows. -- luigi [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1741 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 485 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Standalone Installation Question 2013-10-20 14:05 ` luigi scarso @ 2013-10-20 16:06 ` hwitloc 2013-10-22 10:04 ` Mojca Miklavec 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: hwitloc @ 2013-10-20 16:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users To: ConTeXt package maintainer for TeXlive distribution: TeXlive as of 2011 or so is compatible under unix type with cygwin. I do not want to use the Microsoft version. There is no reason from me to change code and scripts to work with Microsoft's methods. Also I will not give up the unix developement environment that cygwin delivers to work with ConteXt. I'd like to know the the Context package that was submitted to TeXlive. I presume this was in soure format. How can I get that for the beta/current MKIV and build it myself? Thanks luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 3:54 PM, <hwitloc@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yes I saw the Windows version of Context mentioned and read it, > but the documentation is, > in this case, wrong or not fully correct. This is because I am now > using Context which comes is included in the TexLive distribution, > selected with Unix like operating systems. No bat files or other > ancillary code or invokations are necessary. > > Texlive's Context program would probably not run directly on > Microsoft Windows O.S. > hm, my experience is the opposite: texlive context runs on Windows, > but I don't use it because the standalone also works under Windows. > (I use the texlive for all the rest, btw). > > I believe that the documentation can be expanded to cover using a > Context on Cygwin directly and not the Microsoft port which > requires the usage of strange Microsoft pathnames, with C:\ and \ > seperators. > > Using context on cygwin for cygwin may only have been done in > TexLive for Unix like systems, but I'd like to use and test on the > bleeding edge MKIV. But, that proves that it can be done. I just > don't know what was done. > > In this case I think it's better to use the standalone directly on > Windows. > > -- > luigi > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Standalone Installation Question 2013-10-20 16:06 ` hwitloc @ 2013-10-22 10:04 ` Mojca Miklavec 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2013-10-22 10:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hi, Just to make it clear: 1.) There used to be support for the native cygwin binaries in the ConTeXt distribution, but I only remember a single person asking for it and when it had to be built and debugged, he didn't have sufficient time to help debug the problem. Because of many problems (which could be solved, but there would have to be people interesting in testing and solving the problems, provide feedback, ...) the native cygwin binaries have been removed. 2.) first-setup.sh may recognise cygwin, but it won't download anything because the binaries aren't present. Maybe I should change the script to make this explicit and return an error when running on cygwin (there is not error checking - if fetching the files fails, it's not really evident). On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 6:06 PM, <hwitloc@gmail.com> wrote: > > To: ConTeXt package maintainer for TeXlive distribution: > > TeXlive as of 2011 or so is compatible under unix type with cygwin. > > I do not want to use the Microsoft version. There is no reason from me to change > code and scripts to work with Microsoft's methods. There is no need to. If you fetch ConTeXt with binaries compiled with MSVC, you should be perfectly capable of running those binaries in cygwin environment without having to be aware that they are not for cygwin. (I might be wrong, but that's my understanding.) Unless you are a purist and want to avoid anything that has been compiled with MSVC due to potential security risks, there is no reason why the standard binaries couldn't be used. > Also I will not give up the unix developement environment that cygwin delivers to work with ConteXt. You really don't need to. Even if you keep using the windows version. > I'd like to know the the Context package that was submitted to TeXlive. ConTeXt was taken from http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm. Some scripts were used to assemble everything together. You need to check TeX Live sources (http://tug.org/svn/texlive/trunk/Build/) if you are curious about how it was done. > I presume this was in source format. Yes. But except for mtxrun.exe (which is just a windows wrapper for a lua script), the luatex binary (which is not part of ConTeXt) and the formats (that are generated on the fly), ConTeXt doesn't need any compilation. TeX Live contains "sources" for ConTeXt only + some binary wrappers for lua files (not relevant for cygwin). Everything else is either not part of ConTeXt or is using a scripting language. > How can I get that for the beta/current MKIV > and build it myself? Do you want the latest version inside TeX Live or the standalone distribution? If you want a working standalone distribution, a bit of work is needed first to set up everything. Most notably you or someone else would need to volunteer to provide binaries for at least LuaTeX and MetaPost. If you need the latest ConTeXt in TeX Live, it might be sufficient to create a separate texmf tree, put ConTeXt there and set up TEXMF paths properly, plus make sure that the latest mtxrun comes first in PATH. Or create a tlpkg with the latest ConTeXt and install it with tlmgr then. Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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