* dejavu: inline math fraction spacing too tight?
@ 2013-10-23 16:44 Alan BRASLAU
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2013-10-23 16:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello,
Using the dejavu font, inline math fractions (e.g. $a/b$) look to me to
be spaced too tightly. Below are some minimal examples:
\setupbodyfont [dejavu,12pt]
\starttext
$a/b$
$1/2$
$π/3$
\stoptext
Is this indeed the desired spacing? What do others think?
Thanks.
Alan
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* Re: dejavu: inline math fraction spacing too tight?
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@ 2013-10-26 13:22 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2013-10-26 13:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 10/26/2013 3:53 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> Unicode sure makes things easy:
>
> U+002F / SOLIDUS SLASH
> U+2044 ⁄ FRACTION SLASH
> U+2215 ∕ DIVISION SLASH
> U+FF0F ／ FULLWIDTH SOLIDUS FULLWIDTH SLASH
>
> Of course, we key in ascii / (0x2f).
> From how these display (in DejaVu monospace), I would think that the
> division slash is what should be used.
I can revert to 002F and (if needed make a patch in lfg files) but
you're right with respect to xits and 2215 (002F does not have a
descender which looks somewhat weird).
Hans
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* Re: dejavu: inline math fraction spacing too tight?
2013-10-25 22:49 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2013-10-26 12:06 ` Khaled Hosny
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From: Khaled Hosny @ 2013-10-26 12:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 07:49:59AM +0900, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 10/25/2013 5:57 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> >On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 07:23:43AM +0900, Hans Hagen wrote:
> >>On 10/24/2013 2:46 PM, "H. Özoguz" wrote:
> >>>>\setupbodyfont [dejavu,12pt]
> >>>>\starttext
> >>>>$a/b$
> >>>>
> >>>>$1/2$
> >>>>
> >>>>$π/3$
> >>>>\stoptext
> >>>>
> >>>>Is this indeed the desired spacing? What do others think?
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks.
> >>>
> >>>I think you are right, I don't know if this is really desired, but I
> >>>don't think so. Escpecially one gets problems with "2" in the denominator.
> >>>
> >>>\setupbodyfont [dejavu,12pt]
> >>>\starttext
> >>>$1/2$
> >>>
> >>>$1\,/\,2$
> >>>\stoptext
> >>>
> >>>The second hand-tuned example is obviously nicer.
> >>
> >>it looks like a font issue to me .. i could hack a solution but prefer not
> >>to do that (the less exceptions we have the better)
> >
> >Not a font issue. ConTeXt is using the fraction slash (which is intended
> >to be used with vulgar fractions) not the regular slash.
>
> the problem is that (last time i looked into this) all math fonts had it
> differently so i (for the moment) setteld on it
I'd use the regular slash and consider fonts without a proper one
(depends on what you expect from the slash) to be broken. Incidentally,
unicode-math package provide an option to select which slash character
to use because of this.
Regards,
Khaled
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* Re: dejavu: inline math fraction spacing too tight?
2013-10-25 8:57 ` Khaled Hosny
@ 2013-10-25 22:49 ` Hans Hagen
2013-10-26 12:06 ` Khaled Hosny
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2013-10-25 22:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 10/25/2013 5:57 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 07:23:43AM +0900, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 10/24/2013 2:46 PM, "H. Özoguz" wrote:
>>>> \setupbodyfont [dejavu,12pt]
>>>> \starttext
>>>> $a/b$
>>>>
>>>> $1/2$
>>>>
>>>> $π/3$
>>>> \stoptext
>>>>
>>>> Is this indeed the desired spacing? What do others think?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> I think you are right, I don't know if this is really desired, but I
>>> don't think so. Escpecially one gets problems with "2" in the denominator.
>>>
>>> \setupbodyfont [dejavu,12pt]
>>> \starttext
>>> $1/2$
>>>
>>> $1\,/\,2$
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>> The second hand-tuned example is obviously nicer.
>>
>> it looks like a font issue to me .. i could hack a solution but prefer not
>> to do that (the less exceptions we have the better)
>
> Not a font issue. ConTeXt is using the fraction slash (which is intended
> to be used with vulgar fractions) not the regular slash.
the problem is that (last time i looked into this) all math fonts had it
differently so i (for the moment) setteld on it
Hans
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* Re: dejavu: inline math fraction spacing too tight?
2013-10-24 22:23 ` Hans Hagen
2013-10-25 8:08 ` Alan BRASLAU
@ 2013-10-25 8:57 ` Khaled Hosny
2013-10-25 22:49 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Khaled Hosny @ 2013-10-25 8:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 07:23:43AM +0900, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 10/24/2013 2:46 PM, "H. Özoguz" wrote:
> >>\setupbodyfont [dejavu,12pt]
> >>\starttext
> >>$a/b$
> >>
> >>$1/2$
> >>
> >>$π/3$
> >>\stoptext
> >>
> >>Is this indeed the desired spacing? What do others think?
> >>
> >>Thanks.
> >
> >I think you are right, I don't know if this is really desired, but I
> >don't think so. Escpecially one gets problems with "2" in the denominator.
> >
> >\setupbodyfont [dejavu,12pt]
> >\starttext
> >$1/2$
> >
> >$1\,/\,2$
> >\stoptext
> >
> >The second hand-tuned example is obviously nicer.
>
> it looks like a font issue to me .. i could hack a solution but prefer not
> to do that (the less exceptions we have the better)
Not a font issue. ConTeXt is using the fraction slash (which is intended
to be used with vulgar fractions) not the regular slash.
Regards,
Khaled
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* Re: dejavu: inline math fraction spacing too tight?
2013-10-25 8:14 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2013-10-25 8:26 ` Alan BRASLAU
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2013-10-25 8:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:14:45 +0200
Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster@gmail.com> wrote:
> > So, who can fix the font issue?
> > (tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/xits/xits-math.otf)
>
> https://github.com/khaledhosny/xits-math/issues
OK, reported to Khaled.
Thanks
Alan
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* Re: dejavu: inline math fraction spacing too tight?
2013-10-25 8:08 ` Alan BRASLAU
@ 2013-10-25 8:14 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2013-10-25 8:26 ` Alan BRASLAU
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2013-10-25 8:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 25.10.2013 um 10:08 schrieb Alan BRASLAU <alan.braslau@cea.fr>:
> On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 07:23:43 +0900
> Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>
>> it looks like a font issue to me .. i could hack a solution but prefer
>> not to do that (the less exceptions we have the better)
>>
>> Hans
>
> So, who can fix the font issue?
> (tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/xits/xits-math.otf)
https://github.com/khaledhosny/xits-math/issues
Wolfgang
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* Re: dejavu: inline math fraction spacing too tight?
2013-10-24 22:23 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2013-10-25 8:08 ` Alan BRASLAU
2013-10-25 8:14 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2013-10-25 8:57 ` Khaled Hosny
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2013-10-25 8:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 07:23:43 +0900
Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> it looks like a font issue to me .. i could hack a solution but prefer
> not to do that (the less exceptions we have the better)
>
> Hans
So, who can fix the font issue?
(tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/xits/xits-math.otf)
Alan
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* Re: dejavu: inline math fraction spacing too tight?
2013-10-24 5:46 "H. Özoguz"
@ 2013-10-24 22:23 ` Hans Hagen
2013-10-25 8:08 ` Alan BRASLAU
2013-10-25 8:57 ` Khaled Hosny
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2013-10-24 22:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 10/24/2013 2:46 PM, "H. Özoguz" wrote:
>> \setupbodyfont [dejavu,12pt]
>> \starttext
>> $a/b$
>>
>> $1/2$
>>
>> $π/3$
>> \stoptext
>>
>> Is this indeed the desired spacing? What do others think?
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> I think you are right, I don't know if this is really desired, but I
> don't think so. Escpecially one gets problems with "2" in the denominator.
>
> \setupbodyfont [dejavu,12pt]
> \starttext
> $1/2$
>
> $1\,/\,2$
> \stoptext
>
> The second hand-tuned example is obviously nicer.
it looks like a font issue to me .. i could hack a solution but prefer
not to do that (the less exceptions we have the better)
Hans
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* Re: dejavu: inline math fraction spacing too tight?
@ 2013-10-24 5:46 "H. Özoguz"
2013-10-24 22:23 ` Hans Hagen
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From: "H. Özoguz" @ 2013-10-24 5:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> \setupbodyfont [dejavu,12pt]
> \starttext
> $a/b$
>
> $1/2$
>
> $π/3$
> \stoptext
>
> Is this indeed the desired spacing? What do others think?
>
> Thanks.
I think you are right, I don't know if this is really desired, but I
don't think so. Escpecially one gets problems with "2" in the denominator.
\setupbodyfont [dejavu,12pt]
\starttext
$1/2$
$1\,/\,2$
\stoptext
The second hand-tuned example is obviously nicer.
Huseyin
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