From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/85522 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Braslau Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: bibliography - maybeyear Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 22:20:53 +0100 Organization: CEA DSM-IRAMIS-SPEC Message-ID: <20131129222053.55670b7a@iram-hb-003386.extra.cea.fr> References: <20131120091247.4c1014d0@iram-hb-003386.extra.cea.fr> <52977F43.9020304@wxs.nl> <5298790E.1060408@uni-bonn.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385760057 27570 80.91.229.3 (29 Nov 2013 21:20:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 21:20:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users To: thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Nov 29 22:21:02 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.229]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VmVUk-0000b6-7r for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 22:21:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4916E101F7; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 22:21:01 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id i9Q4L5xMMJa1; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 22:20:59 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832CA101F1; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 22:20:59 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB98A101F1 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 22:20:57 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id n6yH4f8AH4m7 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 22:20:56 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter3-utr.mf.surf.net (filter3-utr.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.154]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15798101EB for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 22:20:56 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from sainfoin-out.extra.cea.fr (sainfoin-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.145]) by filter3-utr.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id rATLKsxl025943 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 22:20:55 +0100 Original-Received: from epeire1.extra.cea.fr (epeire1.extra.cea.fr [132.167.198.31]) by sainfoin.extra.cea.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/CEAnet-Internet-out-2.3) with ESMTP id rATLKsq9021041; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 22:20:54 +0100 Original-Received: from epeire1.extra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C910A349F; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 22:20:54 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from orpin1.extra.cea.fr (orpin1.extra.cea.fr [132.167.198.4]) by epeire1.extra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462BAA3373; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 22:20:54 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from iram-hb-003386.extra.cea.fr (charybde.extra.cea.fr [132.166.43.102]) by orpin1.extra.cea.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/CEAnet-Extranet-out-1.2) with ESMTP id rATLKr7F000826; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 22:20:54 +0100 In-Reply-To: <5298790E.1060408@uni-bonn.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.2) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=132.167.192.145; country=FR; region=A3; city=Gif-sur-yvette; latitude=48.6833; longitude=2.1333; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=48.6833,2.1333&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 08KTxkSSC - 59d645079bf0 - 20131129 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 195.169.124.154 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:85522 Archived-At: On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 12:22:54 +0100 "Thomas A. Schmitz" wrote: > maybeyear is one of the areas that need fixing. The simple on/off > mechanism is not sufficient, because the behavior needs to be more > complex: > > 1. If the citation style does not use the year as a key, do not > append letters. > > 2. If the citation style uses year as key and only one > publication/year of an author is quoted and listed (even if there are > several in the bib file) do not append letter. > > 3. Append letter if citation style uses year AND more than one > publication/year for given author is quoted and listed. > > I assume that in order for this to work, Hans will have to rewrite > the code which produces the .bbl file from the bib. Right now, > AFAICS, the .bbl contains the entire .bib database. It should only > contain the entries which are cited. > > Alan, does that make sense to you? Yes Perhaps the .bbl could contain the entire .bib database with the filtering taking place then in lua/ConTeXt. How this is handled internally is a programming, not a user issue. I do agree with your assessment of when to and when not to append a letter to the year as listed. Alan ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________