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* A default editor for ConTeXt standalone?
@ 2014-02-05  6:41 Marcin Borkowski
  2014-02-05  8:54 ` Keith J. Schultz
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From: Marcin Borkowski @ 2014-02-05  6:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi all,

just a thought.  Some time ago wise people decided to include TeXworks
into TeXlive, so that newbies installing TeXlive can get a
"batteries-included" package (not having to choose/install an editor).
Would it be (a) reasonable and (b) not too much time-consuming to do a
similar move with ConTeXt standalone?  I'm not saying it would have to
be TeXworks (or my beloved Emacs, for that matter;)).  I am aware that
this is an additional work to maintain etc., and I'm probably not
capable of doing it myself, but...

What do you think?

-- 
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Adam Mickiewicz University
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* Re: A default editor for ConTeXt standalone?
  2014-02-05  6:41 A default editor for ConTeXt standalone? Marcin Borkowski
@ 2014-02-05  8:54 ` Keith J. Schultz
  2014-02-05  9:49 ` Hans Hagen
  2014-02-16 21:21 ` Joshua Krämer
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From: Keith J. Schultz @ 2014-02-05  8:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,

As nice as it would be to have ConTeXt Standalone offer an editor, I personally
believe that it should not be done.

1) Those that have TeXlive already TeXWorks
     At least it is setup for TeXLive and can be set up to use
     ConTeXt Standalone and other distros at the same time.

2) ConTeXt supports many OSes 
    a) adding editor support opens a big can of worms inorder to be
         non-eavsive and not clobber special settings that a user might have 
         in place.

     b) TeXWorks is nice, yet not for everyone. 
          Furthermore on the Mac one has TeXShop, it was the basis for TeXWorks!
	  I would suggest TeXShop to Mac Users. 

      c) No offense to power users, emacs Ughhhh!
          Emacs comes with a learning curve!
          Should add something in that beginners and the uninclined might
          consider a recommondation, where they would be better off using a 
          different "IDE".

To reinterate, editors and IDEs are a matter of taste.
Depending on the platform one is on there are different choices which are easy
enough to install and use.
It would be to difficult for ConTeXt to avoid ruining someones set up that they have.

regards
	Keith.

Am 05.02.2014 um 07:41 schrieb Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl>:

> Hi all,
> 
> just a thought.  Some time ago wise people decided to include TeXworks
> into TeXlive, so that newbies installing TeXlive can get a
> "batteries-included" package (not having to choose/install an editor).
> Would it be (a) reasonable and (b) not too much time-consuming to do a
> similar move with ConTeXt standalone?  I'm not saying it would have to
> be TeXworks (or my beloved Emacs, for that matter;)).  I am aware that
> this is an additional work to maintain etc., and I'm probably not
> capable of doing it myself, but...
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> -- 
> Marcin Borkowski
> http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
> Adam Mickiewicz University
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* Re: A default editor for ConTeXt standalone?
  2014-02-05  6:41 A default editor for ConTeXt standalone? Marcin Borkowski
  2014-02-05  8:54 ` Keith J. Schultz
@ 2014-02-05  9:49 ` Hans Hagen
  2014-02-16 21:21 ` Joshua Krämer
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2014-02-05  9:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context

On 2/5/2014 7:41 AM, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> just a thought.  Some time ago wise people decided to include TeXworks
> into TeXlive, so that newbies installing TeXlive can get a
> "batteries-included" package (not having to choose/install an editor).
> Would it be (a) reasonable and (b) not too much time-consuming to do a
> similar move with ConTeXt standalone?  I'm not saying it would have to
> be TeXworks (or my beloved Emacs, for that matter;)).  I am aware that
> this is an additional work to maintain etc., and I'm probably not
> capable of doing it myself, but...
>
> What do you think?

FYI: I use SciTE and all files needed to support context in it are in 
the distribution adn kept up to date (including advanced lexers for 
relevant file formats, like tex, lua, xml, pdf, w). I nowadays use 
sumatrapdf for previewing which is supported in a edit-preview cycle.

Hans

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* Re: A default editor for ConTeXt standalone?
  2014-02-05  6:41 A default editor for ConTeXt standalone? Marcin Borkowski
  2014-02-05  8:54 ` Keith J. Schultz
  2014-02-05  9:49 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2014-02-16 21:21 ` Joshua Krämer
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Joshua Krämer @ 2014-02-16 21:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context-wvrSQK3plZs

On 2014-02-05, 7:41, Marcin Borkowski wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> just a thought.  Some time ago wise people decided to include TeXworks
> into TeXlive, so that newbies installing TeXlive can get a
> "batteries-included" package (not having to choose/install an editor).
> Would it be (a) reasonable and (b) not too much time-consuming to do a
> similar move with ConTeXt standalone?

I think, people who want a batteries-included distribution should
install TeXlive, which also includes ConTeXt.  In my opinion, it's
great to have ConTeXt Standalone as a more lightweight package that
doesn't include all the stuff I don't need.  There is also a Wiki page
with informations about editors and their ConTeXt support, which I think
should be enough for the strange users that don't have an editor yet
(or for users looking for an editor with better ConTeXt support).

Kind regards,
Joshua Krämer


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