OT: looking for a "soviet" font

OT: looking for a "soviet" font

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Hi typographibians,

for a new project I’m looking for a body font that fits Soviet Modernism.
I’d like to have OpenType, high typographical quality, good readability as body text, latin and cyrillic glyphs.
Free would be great, but I’d also buy.

Do you have a hint for me?

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Re: OT: looking for a "soviet" font

[Joshua Krämer]

On 2014-04-15, 11:37, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

> for a new project I’m looking for a body font that fits Soviet
> Modernism. I’d like to have OpenType, high typographical quality,
> good readability as body text, latin and cyrillic glyphs. Free would
> be great, but I’d also buy.

The most used Soviet typeface is Literaturnaya.  You can find it here
for example:

http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/paratype/literaturnaya/

There is also a free digital version available.  (I think you can find
it on the CTAN).  But all digital versions I know of are not really
well-suited for body text (they are quite thin, obviously based on a
display size of the original typeface).

A derived typeface which is a bit better for text is Quant Antiqua:

http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/paratype/quant-antiqua/

While Literaturnaya/Quant are surely the best matches for Soviet
typography in general, they may not be the best match for Soviet
modernism. Maybe Baltica could fit better:

http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/paratype/baltica/

Generally, I suggest to search through the ParaType offerings.  They
have many nice typefaces, which are not expensive.

Kind regards,
Joshua Krämer


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Re: OT: looking for a "soviet" font

[Arthur Reutenauer]

  I personally associate Soviet modernism very strongly with sans serif
fonts.  And in fact, to Joshua's excellent advice:

> Generally, I suggest to search through the ParaType offerings.  They
> have many nice typefaces, which are not expensive.

  The new font they advertise on their home page, Journal Sans New,
seems to me to be a very good fit.

  The price for the 6-font family is 6820 roubles, about 140 euros.

	Arthur
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Re: OT: looking for a "soviet" font

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2014-04-15 um 23:15 schrieb Joshua Krämer <joshua.kraemer@gmail.com>:

> The most used Soviet typeface is Literaturnaya.  You can find it here
> for example:
> 
> http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/paratype/literaturnaya/
> 
> There is also a free digital version available.  (I think you can find
> it on the CTAN).  But all digital versions I know of are not really
> well-suited for body text (they are quite thin, obviously based on a
> display size of the original typeface).
> 
> A derived typeface which is a bit better for text is Quant Antiqua:
> 
> http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/paratype/quant-antiqua/
> 
> While Literaturnaya/Quant are surely the best matches for Soviet
> typography in general, they may not be the best match for Soviet
> modernism. Maybe Baltica could fit better:
> 
> http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/paratype/baltica/
> 
> Generally, I suggest to search through the ParaType offerings.  They
> have many nice typefaces, which are not expensive.

Thank you very much!

On TeX-D-L Ulrich Dirr suggested Academy, Baltica, Literaturnaya, Journal/Sans or Ladoga, all from Paratype.

Unfortunately Ladoga and Quant lack the Kyrgyz and Kasakh glyphs that I need. (They have special characters for „German umlaut sounds“ ü and ö, as well as ng).

I don’t think Baltica is very legible, even if it fits the style.
Literaturnaya seems a bit too light, but as „favourite text face of Soviet typography“ it surely fits the bill.

I’ll probably go for Journal+Sans, but I didn’t scan the whole Paratype library yet.


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Re: OT: looking for a "soviet" font

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2014-04-16 um 09:45 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:

> Unfortunately Ladoga and Quant lack the Kyrgyz and Kasakh glyphs that I need.

That’s wrong - I looked only at the preview picture at Paratype’s. Myfonts shows the whole impressing glyph range:
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/paratype/ladoga/

Even if it doesn’t exactly fit my project I guess I „must“ buy it ;-)

Quant Antiqua also has the needed glyphs.
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/paratype/quant-antiqua/


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Re: OT: looking for a "soviet" font

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2014-04-16 um 10:22 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:

> 
> Am 2014-04-16 um 09:45 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:
> 
>> Unfortunately Ladoga and Quant lack the Kyrgyz and Kasakh glyphs that I need.
> 
> That’s wrong - I looked only at the preview picture at Paratype’s. Myfonts shows the whole impressing glyph range:
> http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/paratype/ladoga/

Another correction, I asked at Paratype:

> Back in 2010 we released 4 styles of Ladoga font with Kyrgyz and Kazakh support – Display Regular, Display Italic, Text Regular, Text Italic. This version is still available on MyFonts.
> In 2013 we made the font renovation, removed the styles we released in 2010 and released the new styles (but without Kyrgyz and Kazakh support) – Regular, Italic, Bold, Bold italic, Display Regular, Display italic.
> These days we’re working on expansion of character set of new Ladoga font family, including Kyrgyz and Kazakh characters.


The version on MyFonts also contains Greek (incl. polytoniko) and Hebrew.

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Re: OT: looking for a "soviet" font

[Joshua Krämer]

On 2014-04-16, 9:45, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

> I don’t think Baltica is very legible, even if it fits the style.

It is based on Candida, which I find quite legible especially in small
texts for German.  It is for example used by the German Magazine
"Focus", you can see an example here (from "Focus Schule"):

http://news.elli-e.de/Focus2000.jpg

However, I don't know how legible its cyrillic characters are.

Anyway, I have no objections against a sans serif like Journal!

Kind regards,
Joshua


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Re: OT: looking for a "soviet" font

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2014-04-18 um 01:42 schrieb Joshua Krämer <joshua.kraemer@gmail.com>:

> On 2014-04-16, 9:45, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> 
>> I don’t think Baltica is very legible, even if it fits the style.
> 
> It is based on Candida, which I find quite legible especially in small
> texts for German.  It is for example used by the German Magazine
> "Focus", you can see an example here (from "Focus Schule"):
> http://news.elli-e.de/Focus2000.jpg

Thank you!
I tried a slab serif as body font only once (can’t remember which), for a book that I typeset during vocational school, and I wouldn’t try it again.

> However, I don't know how legible its cyrillic characters are.

Cyrillic is illegible per se ;-)
Seriously, I find Cyrillic text always looks like in all small caps, besides me still not used to reading it.

> Anyway, I have no objections against a sans serif like Journal!

Thank you ;-)

For now I decided to use just PT Serif plus PT Sans. Everything that I tried yet in „historic“ looks didn’t please my eyes.


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