Re: LuaTeX-plain OpenType Features Select

[Philipp Gesang <Philipp.Gesang@alumni.uni-heidelberg.de>]

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···<date: 2014-05-13, Tuesday>···<from: Hans Hagen>···

> On 5/13/2014 8:16 PM, Aíre Funvake wrote:
> > On Tue May 13 19:56:34 2014, Hans Hagen wrote:
> >> On 5/13/2014 7:48 PM, Aíre Funvake wrote:
> >>> On Mon May 12 23:12:06 2014, Aíre Funvake wrote:
> >>>> On 2014-05-12, 22:59 , Aíre Funvake wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon May 12 22:52:43 2014, Hans Hagen wrote:
> >>>>>> On 5/12/2014 10:46 PM, Aíre Funvake wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Mon May 12 22:01:04 2014, Hans Hagen wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 5/12/2014 9:48 PM, Aíre Funvake wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Trying to select "slashed zero" and "lining figures" from a
> >>>>>>>>> font. For Lucida Bright OT, as another example, +scmp works,
> >>>>>>>>> but not for Charter ITC Pro. But the font that concerns me
> >>>>>>>>> the most right now, is TheSansMono Condensed...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Font URL:
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.lucasfonts.com/fonts/thesansmono/thesansmono-condensed/features/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> PDF Info:
> >>>>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6613992/TheSansMonoCd-info.pdf
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 8<-------------------minimal example---------------------------->8
> >>>>>>>>> \newdimen\fntcodesz
> >>>>>>>>> \fntcodesz = 11.5pt
> >>>>>>>>> \font\kwr = name:thesansmonocdw5regular:+lnum;+zero at \fntcodesz
> >>>>>>>>> \kwr
> >>>>>>>>> 0123456789
> >>>>>>>>> \bye
> >>>>>>>>> 8<-------------------------------------------------------------->8
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> sometimes you need to select a script/language combination too
> >>>>>>>> or when
> >>>>>>>> digits are concerned disable oldstyle
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm too inexperienced to know what that means, or how to apply that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> there is some info in font manuals and the context wiki
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I've opened the font in FontForge, and can see the glyphs I'm
> >>>>>>> looking for, but again, it does not carry much applicable meaning
> >>>>>>> for me. For example, can I use this information?:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Slash 0, Lining Figures: (0x10120) U+0030 "zero.lf.slashed" DIGIT
> >>>>>>> ZERO
> >>>>>>>          1, Lining Figures: (0x10121) U+0031 "one.lf" DIGIT ONE
> >>>>>>>          ...
> >>>>>>> Slash 0, "Basic": (0x1012b) U+0030 "zero.basic.slashed" DIGIT ZERO
> >>>>>>>          1, "Basic": (0x1012c) U+0031 "one.basic" DIGIT ONE
> >>>>>>>          ...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> so you need to select the lnum feature too
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Was this not it?:
> >>>>> ...
> >>>>> \font\kwr = name:thesansmonocdw5regular:+lnum;+zero at \fntcodesz
> >>>>> ...
> >>>>> But thanks; will keep on reading; if solution found, will add it here.
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Aíre
> >>>>>
> >>>> Solution:
> >>>> \font\tt = name:thesansmonocdw5regular:script=latn;+lnum;+zero} at 12pt
> >>>> Thank you!
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Spoke too soon. The "zero.slashed" is selected, instead of
> >>> "zero.lf.slashed",
> >>> so that the zero is smaller than the rest of the lining figure numbers.
> >>> In
> >>> desperation, tried luatex with 'luaotfload.sty' under TeXLive2013, and
> >>> it
> >>> worked fine. `;color=XXXXXX` also works with `luaotfload`, but not with
> >>> LuaTeX-plain from ConTeXt.
> >>
> >> no, and that is unlikely to show up in context as it makes no sense to
> >> specify colors that way .. just use the normal color commands
> >>
> >>> Any ideas would be welcome. Exhausted Google query permutations and most
> >>> font info if for LaTeX, pdfTeX, pdfLaTeX, LuaLaTeX or ConTeXt.
> >>>
> >>> Can I maybe as a hack switch the glyphs, or something?
> >>
> >> how about adding
> >>
> >>    mode=node
> >>
> >> in the plain setup (often not needed in context)
> >>
> >> Hans
> >>
> > Thanks for the reply. Tried `mode=node`. Read about it, but never
> > thought
> > of putting it here!? The correct specification then is:
> >
> > \font\mono = {TheSansMonoCd-W5Regular:%
> >           script=latn;+lnum;+zero;mode=node} at \fntsze
> >
> > Confused about the color though. Read most of luatexref-t.pdf, and may
> > have missed it. The only reference (and it works in `luaotfload` under
> > TeXLive2013) is like this:
> >
> > \font\mono = {TheSansMonoCd-W5Regular:%
> >           script=latn;+lnum;+zero;mode=node;color=336699} at \fntsze
> >                                             ~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
> so it looks like oftload adds that (or maybe the latex font definition 
> code) but even then, it's probably implemented someplace else in the 
> latex code
> 
> > Found no other reference to setting color on fonts in LuaTeX-plain (the
> > ConTeXt version). Would love a pointer to the information though.
> 
> it must be something latex i think (maybe to provide xetex 
> compatibility) but it's definitely not in luatex (nor will be) and also 
> not in context (which has more advanced color support than hex specs 
> anyway)

That’s correct. The “color” key triggers a custom callback that
tints every glyph of the defined font. It’s part of Luaotfload
solely for compatibility for Xetex. IMO it’s not worth the
hassle; I recommend using a proper color package instead.

> if you want color, use context instead of plain

Probably the best suggestion =)

Philipp


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