footnotes in frames

footnotes in frames

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

Hi,

is it, by any kind of magic, possible to have footnotes within a frame 
(no float) that will be typeset with the normal footnotes flow? 
Something like

\starttext

one\footnote{1}

two\footnote{2}

\framed{three\footnote{3}}

four\footnote{4}

\stoptext

I have found some threads about similar questions, but no real solution.

Thanks!

Thomas
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Re: footnotes in frames

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/8/2015 6:02 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> Hi,
>
> is it, by any kind of magic, possible to have footnotes within a frame
> (no float) that will be typeset with the normal footnotes flow?
> Something like
>
> \starttext
>
> one\footnote{1}
>
> two\footnote{2}
>
> \framed{three\footnote{3}}
>
> four\footnote{4}
>
> \stoptext
>
> I have found some threads about similar questions, but no real solution.

as you're not afraid of magic:

\framed{three\postponenotes\footnote{3}}\flushnotes



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Re: footnotes in frames

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On 08.11.2015 19:22, Hans Hagen wrote:
> as you're not afraid of magic:
>
> \framed{three\postponenotes\footnote{3}}\flushnotes

Yep, excellent, that gets the job done! Thanks a lot! Would this 
description of the mechanism be correct for the wiki:

"In deeply nested boxes (such as frames or similar environments), you 
need to explicitly postpone and flush notes to have them typeset with 
regular notes. Thus:

\starttext

one\footnote{1}

two\footnote{2}

\framed{three\postponenotes\footnote{3}}\flushnotes

four\footnote{4}

\stoptext"

If this isn't too wrong, I'll add it to the wiki.

And, at the risk of sounding impatient: is there any ETA for the next 
beta? The current one has some problems which have been announced on the 
list (such as xml entities, problems with loading some fonts), so it 
would be great to have a fixed one!

All best

Thomas
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Re: footnotes in frames

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/8/2015 7:47 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On 08.11.2015 19:22, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> as you're not afraid of magic:
>>
>> \framed{three\postponenotes\footnote{3}}\flushnotes
>
> Yep, excellent, that gets the job done! Thanks a lot! Would this
> description of the mechanism be correct for the wiki:
>
> "In deeply nested boxes (such as frames or similar environments), you
> need to explicitly postpone and flush notes to have them typeset with
> regular notes. Thus:
>
> \starttext
>
> one\footnote{1}
>
> two\footnote{2}
>
> \framed{three\postponenotes\footnote{3}}\flushnotes
>
> four\footnote{4}
>
> \stoptext"
>
> If this isn't too wrong, I'll add it to the wiki.
>
> And, at the risk of sounding impatient: is there any ETA for the next
> beta? The current one has some problems which have been announced on the
> list (such as xml entities, problems with loading some fonts), so it
> would be great to have a fixed one!
>
> All best
>
> Thomas
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Re: footnotes in frames

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/8/2015 7:47 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On 08.11.2015 19:22, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> as you're not afraid of magic:
>>
>> \framed{three\postponenotes\footnote{3}}\flushnotes
>
> Yep, excellent, that gets the job done! Thanks a lot! Would this
> description of the mechanism be correct for the wiki:
>
> "In deeply nested boxes (such as frames or similar environments), you
> need to explicitly postpone and flush notes to have them typeset with
> regular notes. Thus:
>
> \starttext
>
> one\footnote{1}
>
> two\footnote{2}
>
> \framed{three\postponenotes\footnote{3}}\flushnotes
>
> four\footnote{4}
>
> \stoptext"
>
> If this isn't too wrong, I'll add it to the wiki.
>
> And, at the risk of sounding impatient: is there any ETA for the next
> beta? The current one has some problems which have been announced on the
> list (such as xml entities, problems with loading some fonts), so it
> would be great to have a fixed one!

probably this week

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Re: footnotes in frames

[Alan BRASLAU]

On Sun, 8 Nov 2015 19:22:02 +0100
Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> as you're not afraid of magic:

How does the following magic, revealed a while ago, fit into the scene?

\automigrateinserts % needed to handle footnotes within a box...

Alan
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Re: footnotes in frames

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/9/2015 5:49 AM, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Nov 2015 19:22:02 +0100
> Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>
>> as you're not afraid of magic:
>
> How does the following magic, revealed a while ago, fit into the scene?
>
> \automigrateinserts % needed to handle footnotes within a box...

depends on how much control one wants ... automigrate can have side 
effects for other cases

Hans

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Re: footnotes in frames

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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> Alan BRASLAU <mailto:alan.braslau@cea.fr>
> 9. November 2015 um 05:49
> On Sun, 8 Nov 2015 19:22:02 +0100
>
> How does the following magic, revealed a while ago, fit into the scene?
>
> \automigrateinserts % needed to handle footnotes within a box...
It works only when you use \hbox but not for nested boxes (which also 
applies to \framed).

%\enabletrackers[nodes.migrations]

\automigrateinserts

\starttext

First\footnote{First}

\hbox{Second\footnote{Second}}

\vbox{Third\footnote{Third}}

\hbox{\hbox{Fourth\footnote{Fourth}}}

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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