* font switches: bold, slanted, etc.
@ 2016-02-12 23:23 Alan BRASLAU
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2016-02-12 23:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
Basic font switches are bold (\bf), italic (\it), slanted (\sl), ...
and one can have bolditalic (\bi), boldslated (\bs), etc.
We also have style=bold, style=slanted, etc.
Is there some way to manipulate font switches so that
\bold{This text is \slated{bold}}
for example, would put the word "bold" into boldslanted?
A natural use of this is, e.g. headers that get typeset in bold. What
if the title contains a word, say, in slanted (or, worse, some
mathematics)?
Alan
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2016-02-13 10:02 ` Alan BRASLAU
2016-02-13 9:53 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2016-02-13 1:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 02/13/2016 12:23 AM, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> [...]
> Is there some way to manipulate font switches so that
> \bold{This text is \slated{bold}}
> for example, would put the word "bold" into boldslanted?
>
> A natural use of this is, e.g. headers that get typeset in bold. What
> if the title contains a word, say, in slanted (or, worse, some
> mathematics)?
Sorry, Alan, but I don’t see the point you’re trying to make.
I guess \em is your friend here:
\starttext
\startTEXpage[offset=1em]
{\bf Heading {\em One}}
{\bf Heading {\em One {\em Extended}}}
{\bf Heading {\sl Two}}
{\bf Heading {\sl One {\sl Extended}}}
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext
It has two main advantages over \sl: it accepts bold and double emphasis
means no emphasis.
Or what I am missing?
Just in case it helps,
Pablo
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2016-02-13 10:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pablo Rodriguez; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 02:14:10 +0100
Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote:
> I guess \em is your friend here:
Yes, silly me, of course \em nests well with bold
as does mathematics:
\starttext
This is $τεχ$.
\bf This is $τεχ$.
\stoptext
Alan
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From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2016-02-13 10:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 02/13/2016 11:02 AM, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 02:14:10 +0100 Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>
>> I guess \em is your friend here:
>
> Yes, silly me, of course \em nests well with bold
> as does mathematics:
> [...]
Alan, please, no derogatory remarks about list members :-).
There is a Latin quote from Horace («Ars poetica», 359,
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Hor.+Ars+369&fromdoc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.02.0064
[of course, Thomas knows way better than myself, since I’m not even an
amateur]):
quandoque bonus dormitat Homerus
which translates (according to Merriam-Webster
[http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/aliquando%20bonus%20dormitat%20homerus]):
sometimes (even) good Homer nods
We are all human beings (although ones more perfect and with more
ConTeXt knowledge than others :-)).
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2016-02-12 23:23 font switches: bold, slanted, etc Alan BRASLAU
2016-02-13 1:14 ` Pablo Rodriguez
@ 2016-02-13 9:53 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2016-02-13 10:30 ` Alan BRASLAU
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2016-02-13 9:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> Alan BRASLAU <mailto:alan.braslau@cea.fr>
> 13. Februar 2016 um 00:23
> Hi,
>
> Basic font switches are bold (\bf), italic (\it), slanted (\sl), ...
> and one can have bolditalic (\bi), boldslated (\bs), etc.
> We also have style=bold, style=slanted, etc.
>
> Is there some way to manipulate font switches so that
> \bold{This text is \slated{bold}}
> for example, would put the word "bold" into boldslanted?
>
> A natural use of this is, e.g. headers that get typeset in bold. What
> if the title contains a word, say, in slanted (or, worse, some
> mathematics)?
There are a few font switches which change the style dependant on the
current style
\starttext
\starttabulate[|l|f{\tf}l|f{\it}l|f{\sl}l|f{\bf}l|f{\bi}l|f{\bs}l|]
\NC \NC \tttf \tex{tf} \NC \tttf \tex{it} \NC \tttf
\tex{sl} \NC \tttf \tex{bf} \NC \tttf \tex{bi} \NC \tttf \tex{bs} \NC\NR
\NC \NC Text \NC Text \NC
Text \NC Text \NC Text \NC Text \NC\NR
\NC \tex{em} \NC \em Text \NC \em Text \NC \em
Text \NC \em Text \NC \em Text \NC \em Text \NC\NR
\NC \tex{boldface} \NC \boldface Text \NC \boldface Text \NC \boldface
Text \NC \boldface Text \NC \boldface Text \NC \boldface Text \NC\NR
\NC \tex{typeface} \NC \typeface Text \NC \typeface Text \NC \typeface
Text \NC \typeface Text \NC \typeface Text \NC \typeface Text \NC\NR
\NC \tex{swapface} \NC \swapface Text \NC \swapface Text \NC \swapface
Text \NC \swapface Text \NC \swapface Text \NC \swapface Text \NC\NR
\stoptabulate
\stoptext
but I guess you’re looking for something like this (similar to the LaTeX
font system):
\unprotect
\def\texttf_direct
{\ifx\fontalternative\s!it \tf \else
\ifx\fontalternative\s!sl \tf \else
\ifx\fontalternative\s!bi \bf \else
\ifx\fontalternative\s!bs \bf \fi\fi\fi\fi}
\def\textbf_direct
{\ifx\fontalternative\s!tf \bf \else
\ifx\fontalternative\s!it \bi \else
\ifx\fontalternative\s!sl \bs \fi\fi\fi}
\def\textit_direct
{\ifx\fontalternative\s!tf \it \else
\ifx\fontalternative\s!sl \it \else
\ifx\fontalternative\s!bf \bi \else
\ifx\fontalternative\s!bs \bi \fi\fi\fi\fi}
\def\textsl_direct
{\ifx\fontalternative\s!tf \sl \else
\ifx\fontalternative\s!it \it \else
\ifx\fontalternative\s!bf \bs \else
\ifx\fontalternative\s!bi \bs \fi\fi\fi\fi}
\def\textem_direct
{\ifx\fontalternative\s!tf \it \else
\ifx\fontalternative\s!it \tf \else
\ifx\fontalternative\s!sl \tf \else
\ifx\fontalternative\s!bf \bi \else
\ifx\fontalternative\s!bi \bf \else
\ifx\fontalternative\s!bs \bf \fi\fi\fi\fi\fi\fi}
\def\texttf_indeed{\bgroup\texttf_direct\let\nexttoken}
\def\textbf_indeed{\bgroup\textbf_direct\let\nexttoken}
\def\textit_indeed{\bgroup\textit_direct\let\nexttoken}
\def\textsl_indeed{\bgroup\textsl_direct\let\nexttoken}
\def\textem_indeed{\bgroup\textem_direct\let\nexttoken}
\unexpanded\def\texttf{\doifelsenextbgroup\texttf_indeed\texttf_direct}
\unexpanded\def\textbf{\doifelsenextbgroup\textbf_indeed\textbf_direct}
\unexpanded\def\textit{\doifelsenextbgroup\textit_indeed\textit_direct}
\unexpanded\def\textsl{\doifelsenextbgroup\textsl_indeed\textsl_direct}
\unexpanded\def\textem{\doifelsenextbgroup\textem_indeed\textem_direct}
\protect
\starttext
text {\textbf text \textit text \texttf text \textsl text}
text {\textit text \textbf text \textsl text \texttf text}
text \textbf{text \textit{text} \textsl{text \texttf{text} text}}
text {\textem text \textem text} {\bf text \textem text \textem text}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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2016-02-13 10:47 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2016-02-13 10:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Wolfgang Schuster; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:53:22 +0100
Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
> There are a few font switches which change the style dependant on the
> current style
Thanks for this table; I wikified it (under Font Switches, of course).
It mysteriously introduces \typeface, \swapface and \boldface.
I wonder, though, is there anything similar to boldsmallcapitals?
Does this even exist in any fonts?
> but I guess you’re looking for something like this (similar to the
> LaTeX font system):
I wouldn't dream of something similar to LaTeX...
Alan
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@ 2016-02-13 10:47 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2016-02-13 15:55 ` Alan BRASLAU
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> Alan BRASLAU <mailto:alan.braslau@cea.fr>
> 13. Februar 2016 um 11:30
> On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:53:22 +0100
> Wolfgang Schuster<schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There are a few font switches which change the style dependant on the
>> current style
>
> Thanks for this table; I wikified it (under Font Switches, of course).
> It mysteriously introduces \typeface, \swapface and \boldface.
>
> I wonder, though, is there anything similar to boldsmallcapitals?
> Does this even exist in any fonts?
It depends on the font, with Latin Modern this isn’t possible because it
uses
a separate font for smallcaps but with TeX Gyre you can do this:
\setupbodyfont[pagella]
\starttext
Text {\feature[+][smallcaps]Text} {\bf Text \feature[+][smallcaps]Text}
Text {\feature[+][smallcaps]Text \bf Text}
\stoptext
>> but I guess you’re looking for something like this (similar to the
>> LaTeX font system):
>
> I wouldn't dream of something similar to LaTeX...
The font switches aren't that bad but as I have shown there is no need
to have different commands for \XXX{....} and {\XXX ...}.
Wolfgang
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2016-02-13 17:11 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2016-02-13 15:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Wolfgang Schuster; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 11:47:52 +0100
Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Alan BRASLAU <mailto:alan.braslau@cea.fr>
> > 13. Februar 2016 um 11:30
> >
> > I wonder, though, is there anything similar to boldsmallcapitals?
> > Does this even exist in any fonts?
> It depends on the font, with Latin Modern this isn’t possible because
> it uses
> a separate font for smallcaps but with TeX Gyre you can do this:
>
> \setupbodyfont[pagella]
>
> \starttext
>
> Text {\feature[+][smallcaps]Text} {\bf Text
> \feature[+][smallcaps]Text}
>
> Text {\feature[+][smallcaps]Text \bf Text}
>
> \stoptext
Thank you.
This is nice, as TeX Gyre is a very good base for most use (unless one
specifically needs/wants a different font). So I wonder if \smallcaps
could be easily made to use this \feature automagically if it exists in
the font? Maybe it does this already:
\setupbodyfont[pagella]
\starttext
Text {\bf Text \feature[+][smallcaps]Text}
Text {\bf Text \smallcaps Text}
\stoptext
Alan
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2016-02-12 23:23 font switches: bold, slanted, etc Alan BRASLAU
2016-02-13 1:14 ` Pablo Rodriguez
2016-02-13 9:53 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2016-02-13 11:42 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2016-02-13 11:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 2/13/2016 12:23 AM, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Basic font switches are bold (\bf), italic (\it), slanted (\sl), ...
> and one can have bolditalic (\bi), boldslated (\bs), etc.
> We also have style=bold, style=slanted, etc.
>
> Is there some way to manipulate font switches so that
> \bold{This text is \slated{bold}}
> for example, would put the word "bold" into boldslanted?
normally \em will adapt itself
> A natural use of this is, e.g. headers that get typeset in bold. What
> if the title contains a word, say, in slanted (or, worse, some
> mathematics)?
guess why we need real 'bold math fonts' (a project related to the gyre
fonts but not yet started)
Hans
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