From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/94908 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: =?utf-8?q?Are_nested_sections_possible=3F?= Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 06:39:04 +0200 Message-ID: <20160520063904.472B7BB5@centrum.cz> References: <585b9b9aa484d54b00489590afa2ec17@silentumbrella.com>, <56E28371.6040902@gmx.es>, <20160311175318.2fbf52d6@cea.fr> 00070000924800921778036232d6 Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_ca29_-------e3f460bff35848606621a5a5caea77ea" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1463719192 25521 80.91.229.3 (20 May 2016 04:39:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 04:39:52 +0000 (UTC) To: =?utf-8?q?mailing_list_for_ConTeXt_users?= Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri May 20 06:39:40 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from zapf.boekplan.nl ([5.39.185.232] helo=zapf.ntg.nl) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b3cDs-0008Cb-5x for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 May 2016 06:39:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA635CA79; Fri, 20 May 2016 06:39:18 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.boekplan.nl Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m4vJC2z4bcq3; Fri, 20 May 2016 06:39:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C0ED66C; Fri, 20 May 2016 06:39:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B567CA84 for ; Fri, 20 May 2016 06:39:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.boekplan.nl Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6jbPeWe3kaJr for ; Fri, 20 May 2016 06:39:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from gmmr2.centrum.cz (gmmr2.centrum.cz [46.255.227.252]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 099D7CA79 for ; Fri, 20 May 2016 06:39:04 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail1007.cent (unknown [10.255.254.14]) by gmmr2.centrum.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8BB6001624 for ; Fri, 20 May 2016 06:39:04 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=centrum.cz; s=mail; t=1463719144; bh=4IrQ36+acarvOGIDEJYzKsOb2pksoSylI46o0ejQWl4=; h=To:Subject:Date:From:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=NgAP+o3CNYtlnT4lFqaS8fbKQFpc5dxIy0lAVwKAklRd7X/w3r0qLRLYVU/LP3bfh a6AtoTYJLulADpQIo68rMvo9B23nKx0EozzoU1JC0uwTi45tzzuNKDdXc2v875D1fn dO9qkW4EUSsWLyWbBdQXU+fmm1HoK+UHLGog4vBE= Original-Received: by mail1007.cent (Postfix, from userid 33) id 5790758B191; Fri, 20 May 2016 06:39:04 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from 91.192.32.153 (X-Forwarded-For: 91.192.32.153) by mail1007.centrum.cz (centrum.cz multimail) with HTTP In-Reply-To: 00070000924800921778036232d6 X-Mailer: Centrum Email 5.3 X-Priority: 3 X-Original-From: docent.einstein@centrum.cz X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: "ntg-context" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:94908 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_ca29_-------e3f460bff35848606621a5a5caea77ea Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d32c_-------bf1f211a8b6562c715b9f55888336352" --_d32c_-------bf1f211a8b6562c715b9f55888336352 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Zdravim Lukasi, =C2=A0 Nejsem si jisty, zda se nemylim, ale pokud jsi z Brna, pak bych Te rad po= zdravil. =C2=A0 Radek Pysny =C2=A0 ______________________________________________________________ > Od: Proch=C3=A1zka Luk=C3=A1=C5=A1 Ing. > Komu: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" > Datum: 14.03.2016 09:05 > P=C5=99edm=C4=9Bt: Re: [NTG-context] Are nested sections possible? > Hello, =20 one more thing: =20 It would be nice to allow mixing: =20 - \section like commands (or \startsection ... \stopsection) - AND \startsectionlevel ... \stopsectionlevel. =20 The main problem is that one may NEED to mix: =20 - (ancient) source files which use \section (deprecated) style - with more versatile \start-\stopsectionlevel style in newer source fil= es. =20 See the test attached - only the case 3 works universally with the \star= t-\stopstructurelevel; any mixing of sectioning styles doesn't yield a desired result. =20 Best regards, =20 Lukas =20 =20 On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 01:53:18 +0100, Alan BRASLAU w= rote: =20 > On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:36:01 +0100 > Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > >> Sorry, Mica, but which is the gain in nesting sections (whether >> possible or not) over using subsections and subsubsections? >> >> I can hardly imagine the sense in the point you=E2=80=99re making. (S= orry, it >> must be my fault.) > > Think about including source in another source, for example. > > Say one has an article that becomes a book, or gets included in a book= , > or the book gets parts. In the course of writing, one might decide to > add an additional level of structure and not want to change all of the > \start...\stop structure definitions. > > In fact, using fixed section, subsection, subsubsection is a bit > antiquated, isn't it? > > Alan > ______________________________________________________________________= _____________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry= to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg= -context > webpage =C2=A0: http://www.pragma-ade.nl / = http://tex.aanhet.net > archive =C2=A0: http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : http://contextgarden.net > ______________________________________________________________________= _____________ =20 =20 --=20 Ing. Luk=C3=A1=C5=A1 Proch=C3=A1zka | mailto:LPr@pontex.cz Pontex s. r. o. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0| mailto:pontex@pontex.cz | http://w= ww.pontex.cz Bezov=C3=A1 1658 147 14 Praha 4 =20 Tel: +420 241 096 751 Fax: +420 244 461 038 =20 ---------- =20 ________________________________________________________________________= ___________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry t= o the Wiki! =20 maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-c= ontext webpage =C2=A0: http://www.pragma-ade.nl / ht= tp://tex.aanhet.net archive =C2=A0: http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : http://contextgarden.net ________________________________________________________________________= ___________ --_d32c_-------bf1f211a8b6562c715b9f55888336352 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Zdravim Lukasi,

 

Nejsem si jisty, zda se nem= ylim, ale pokud jsi z Brna, pak bych Te rad pozdravil.

 

Radek Pysny

 

___________________________= ___________________________________
> Od: Procházka Lukáš Ing. <LPr@pontex.cz><= br /> > Komu: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" <ntg-context@ntg.nl> > Datum: 14.03.2016 09:05
> P=C5=99edm=C4=9Bt: Re: [NTG-context] Are nested sections possible? >

Hello,

one more thing:

It would be nice to allow mixing:

- \section like commands (or \startsection ... \stopsection)
- AND \startsectionlevel ... \stopsectionlevel.

The main problem is that one may NEED to mix:

- (ancient) source files which use \section (deprecated) style
- with more versatile \start-\stopsectionlevel style in newer source fil= es.

See the test attached - only the case 3 works universally with the \star= t-\stopstructurelevel;
any mixing of sectioning styles doesn't yield a desired result.

Best regards,

Lukas


On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 01:53:18 +0100, Alan BRASLAU <alan.braslau@cea.fr= > wrote:

> On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 09:36:01 +0100
> Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, Mica, but which is the gain in nesting sections (whether=
>> possible or not) over using subsections and subsubsections?
>>
>> I can hardly imagine the sense in the point you’re making= . (Sorry, it
>> must be my fault.)
>
> Think about including source in another source, for example.
>
> Say one has an article that becomes a book, or gets included in a b= ook,
> or the book gets parts. In the course of writing, one might decide = to
> add an additional level of structure and not want to change all of = the
> \start...\stop structure definitions.
>
> In fact, using fixed section, subsection, subsubsection is a bit > antiquated, isn't it?
>
> Alan
> ___________________________________________________________________= ________________
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an en= try to the Wiki!
>
> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
> webpage  : http://www.pra= gma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net<= /a>
> archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
> wiki     : http://co= ntextgarden.net
> ___________________________________________________________________= ________________


--
Ing. Lukáš Procházka | mailto:LPr@pontex.cz
Pontex s. r. o.      | mailto:pontex@pontex.cz | http://www.pontex.cz
Bezová 1658
147 14 Praha 4

Tel: +420 241 096 751
Fax: +420 244 461 038

----------

________________________________________________________________________= ___________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry t= o the Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-a= de.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki     : http://context= garden.net
________________________________________________________________________= ___________ --_d32c_-------bf1f211a8b6562c715b9f55888336352-- --_ca29_-------e3f460bff35848606621a5a5caea77ea Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KSWYgeW91ciBxdWVzdGlvbiBpcyBvZiBpbnRlcmVz dCB0byBvdGhlcnMgYXMgd2VsbCwgcGxlYXNlIGFkZCBhbiBlbnRyeSB0byB0aGUgV2lraSEKCm1h aWxsaXN0IDogbnRnLWNvbnRleHRAbnRnLm5sIC8gaHR0cDovL3d3dy5udGcubmwvbWFpbG1hbi9s aXN0aW5mby9udGctY29udGV4dAp3ZWJwYWdlICA6IGh0dHA6Ly93d3cucHJhZ21hLWFkZS5ubCAv IGh0dHA6Ly90ZXguYWFuaGV0Lm5ldAphcmNoaXZlICA6IGh0dHA6Ly9mb3VuZHJ5LnN1cGVsZWMu ZnIvcHJvamVjdHMvY29udGV4dHJldi8Kd2lraSAgICAgOiBodHRwOi8vY29udGV4dGdhcmRlbi5u ZXQKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18= --_ca29_-------e3f460bff35848606621a5a5caea77ea--