6-sided letter fold (TRYPTICHON) with unequal page size

6-sided letter fold (TRYPTICHON) with unequal page size

[Marco Patzer]

Hi,

I try getting a 6-sided letterfold with unequal page size to work.
This is how it's supposed to look like:

  https://www.saxoprint.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/roll-fold-leaflets-02-01.png

This is easy with the arranging option TRYPTICHON. *But* the page
sizes are not equal and manually adjusting them shifts them not the
way they're supposed to. Page 4 and 5 need to be a bit less wide to
be able to fold neatly.

  Page width 1,2,3,6: 10cm
  Page width 4,5:      9.7cm

How to adapt for the changed page size without an overlapping page 4
and a page with clearance to the adjacent 6th page? Suggestions
welcome!

Here the example you've all been waiting for:

%% 6-sided letter fold
%% https://www.saxoprint.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/roll-fold-leaflets-02-01.png

\definepapersize
  [flyer]
  [width=10cm, height=21cm]

\definepapersize
  [flyer-small]
  [width=9.7cm, height=21cm]

\setuppapersize
  [flyer]
  [A4, landscape]

\setuplayout [page]
\setuparranging [TRYPTICHON]

\starttext
\showframe

10cm:\blank \rightaligned{\blackrule[width=10cm]}\vfill{\tfd\currentpage}

\page
10cm:\blank[5mm] \blackrule[width=10cm]\vfill{\tfd\currentpage}

\page
10cm:\blank[8mm] \blackrule[width=10cm]\vfill{\tfd\currentpage}

\page
%% shifts page to the left, why?
\setuppapersize [flyer-small] [A4, landscape]
9.7cm:\blank[11mm] \rightaligned{\blackrule[width=9.7cm]}\vfill{\tfd\currentpage}

\page
\setuppapersize [flyer-small] [A4, landscape]
9.7cm:\blank[14mm] \blackrule[width=9.7cm]\vfill{\tfd\currentpage}

\page
\setuppapersize [flyer] [A4, landscape]
10cm:\blank[10mm] \blackrule[width=10cm]\vfill{\tfd\currentpage}

\stoptext

Marco
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Re: 6-sided letter fold (TRYPTICHON) with unequal page size

[Marco Patzer]

On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 22:15:31 +0200
Marco Patzer <lists@homerow.info> wrote:

> I try getting a 6-sided letterfold with unequal page size to work.
>
> […]
>
> How to adapt for the changed page size without an overlapping page 4
> and a page with clearance to the adjacent 6th page? Suggestions
> welcome!

Any clues, someone?

Marco
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Re: 6-sided letter fold (TRYPTICHON) with unequal page size

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2018-06-27 um 18:35 schrieb Marco Patzer <lists@homerow.info>:

> On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 22:15:31 +0200
> Marco Patzer <lists@homerow.info> wrote:
> 
>> I try getting a 6-sided letterfold with unequal page size to work.

Hi Marco,

I'd not try that with pages and imposition, but just use two A4 pages and place my content on them - using layers or maybe column sets.
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Layers
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Columns#Column_Sets


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Re: 6-sided letter fold (TRYPTICHON) with unequal page size

[Marco Patzer]

On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 18:42:40 +0200
Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote:

> I'd not try that with pages and imposition, but just use two A4 pages
> and place my content on them - using layers or maybe column sets.
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Layers
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Columns#Column_Sets

Sure, thought about that, too. But since there is a solution that
seems to be built for this very purpose, I thought before rolling my
own and duplicating the work, I'd just use it. And it almost works.

As I haven't been using the arranging mechanism, and therefore don't
know it (and its quirks), I thought there might be a simple fix. If
it's not, then I'll use layers.

Thanks for your input.

Marco
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Re: 6-sided letter fold (TRYPTICHON) with unequal page size

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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This isn’t possible because the imposition mechanism puts the finished pages
in boxes with the same size.

Wolfgang
> Marco Patzer <mailto:lists@homerow.info>
> 27. Juni 2018 um 18:35
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 22:15:31 +0200
>
> Any clues, someone?
>
> Marco
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Re: 6-sided letter fold (TRYPTICHON) with unequal page size

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 06/27/2018 07:54 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> This isn’t possible because the imposition mechanism puts the finished pages
> in boxes with the same size.

Wolfgang,

isn’t it a case for \definepageshift and \setuppageshift?

>> Marco Patzer 27. Juni 2018 um 18:35
>> On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 22:15:31 +0200
>>
>> Any clues, someone?

Marco,

how about having different backspace and cutspace values for the
required pages?

I think a mix of both might be required.

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Re: 6-sided letter fold (TRYPTICHON) with unequal page size

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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> Pablo Rodriguez <mailto:oinos@gmx.es>
> 27. Juni 2018 um 20:40
> On 06/27/2018 07:54 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> This isn’t possible because the imposition mechanism puts the finished pages
>> in boxes with the same size.
>
> Wolfgang,
>
> isn’t it a case for \definepageshift and \setuppageshift?

For most documents this should work.


\definepapersize[flyer][width=100mm,height=210mm]

\setuppapersize[flyer][A4,landscape]

\setuparranging [TRYPTICHON]

\definepageshift[flyer][horizontal][-3pt,0pt,0pt,0pt,-3pt,-3pt]
%\definepageshift[flyer][horizontal][-3pt,0pt,0pt,-1.5pt,-1.5pt,-3pt]

\setuppageshift[paper][flyer]

\showframe[page]

\starttext
\dorecurse{6}{\page[dummy]}
\stoptext

Wolfgang

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Re: 6-sided letter fold (TRYPTICHON) with unequal page size

[Marco Patzer]

On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 20:40:52 +0200
Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote:

> On 06/27/2018 07:54 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> > This isn’t possible because the imposition mechanism puts the
> > finished pages in boxes with the same size.  
> 
> Wolfgang,
> 
> isn’t it a case for \definepageshift and \setuppageshift?

That works, indeed.

Thank you (and Wolfgang) for the suggestion.

Marco
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