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From: Alan Braslau <braslau.list@comcast.net>
To: Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com>
Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: text in mathematics
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 15:11:10 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180708151110.7b01e402@poo.hsd1.co.comcast.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DB86B529-C409-45BC-A5C6-736B09A59DB9@gmail.com>

In many "less-rigorous" uses of equations, there is an abundant need
to include words (text) in mathematics, and using \mathtext{} or \mbox{}
or whatever is unwieldy.

Readable subscripts, self-explanatory variable names, etc. might be
text and not symbols. These situations can be very common. This is why I
asked (1) what is the right method, and (2) what do others think about
the shorthand \t{}, similar to the shorthand \m{}?

Alan


On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 23:00:00 +0200
Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Alan, Wolfgang and Hans Åberg,
> 
> As far as I am concerned, when I have to add a text to a math formula
> I use \mbox, as in the example
> 
> \startformula
> A := \left\{f : {\Bbb R}^2 \longrightarrow {\Bbb R} \; ; \; f
> \mbox{ is measurable and }  \int_{{\Bbb R}^2}|f(x)|dx < \infty
> \right\}. \stopformula
> 
> The advantage being that if the above formula appears in an
> environment such as a Theorem (where the text is typeset in italic,
> or slanted) the text in the above \mbox will be also in italic or
> slanted.
> 
> I don't think it would be a good idea to add new commands to treat
> text in a math formula: the existing possiblities are more than
> satisfactory, and moreover situations where one has to add text to a
> formula are not that common. So using a command like \mbox, or \text,
> or \mathtext, or whatever, is not that time consuming.
> 
> Best regards: OK
> 
> 
> > On 8 Jul 2018, at 21:21, Wolfgang Schuster
> > <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Alan,
> > 
> > 1. The correct way to use \mathrm is {\mathrm ...} because it is a
> > switch like \rm for text mode.
> > 
> > 2. \mathrm is the wrong method to write text in formulas because
> > the command changes only the math alphabet. This means no
> > ligatures, kerning or other characters like umlauts.
> > 
> > 3. The correct way to write text in math mode is \mathtext (which
> > has the synonym \text) or \mathword. To change the style of the
> > text you can use \mathtext{\it …} or \mathtextit{…}.
> > 
> > Wolfgang  
> >> Alan Braslau <mailto:braslau.list@comcast.net> 7. Juli 2018 um
> >> 16:04 Hello ConTeXt users,
> >> 
> >> Does it drive you crazy to see TeX users write $t = time$?
> >> (I see this all of the time by LaTeX users in Beamer
> >> presentations.)
> >> 
> >> One can do better writing $t = {\rm time}$ (maybe)
> >> or in ConTeXt $t = \mathrm{time}$.
> >> Sometimes, too, I might write $t = \text{time}$.
> >> 
> >> We also have the commands \mathematics{} that can be used in place
> >> of the TeX shorthand $...$, and this also has the shortcut \m{...}.
> >> 
> >> I thought that it might be useful to have an equivalent escape, to
> >> be used as $t = \t{time}$. What do other users think?
> >> 
> >> OK, \m{t = \t{time}} might be a bit funky... 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Alan
> >> 
> >> 
> >> P.S. I proposed doing this via
> >> \let\t\mathrm
> >> but Hans tells me that this is not good, as \mathrm{} does not give
> >> proper font processing, so implementation of \t{} would be
> >> something different...
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-08 21:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-07 14:04 Alan Braslau
2018-07-07 16:25 ` Hans Åberg
2018-07-08 19:21 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2018-07-08 21:00   ` Otared Kavian
2018-07-08 21:11     ` Alan Braslau [this message]
2018-07-09  9:39       ` Wolfgang Schuster
2018-07-09 13:05         ` Hans Hagen
2018-07-09 12:51     ` Hans Åberg
2018-07-09 15:48       ` Aditya Mahajan
2018-07-09 19:27         ` Hans Åberg
2018-07-10 15:53           ` Hans Åberg

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