devanagari is missing an accent in newest beta

devanagari is missing an accent in newest beta

[Ulrike Fischer]

Disclaimer: I know nothing about devanagari, I can only describe
changes visually ...

I installed yesterday the newest context, and one of my examples of
devanagari is now missing an "accent". I'm rather confident that the
output was different before the update as I made screenshots when
testing this with luaotfload. 

The affected font siddhanta can be found here
http://svayambhava.blogspot.com/p/siddhanta-devanagariunicode-open-type.html

Screenshots and code that show the difference and the missing accent
in the xelatex and context output are in this comment

https://github.com/u-fischer/luaotfload/issues/9#issuecomment-431288932

the older (perfect) output is in a comment above
https://github.com/u-fischer/luaotfload/issues/9#issuecomment-426978522


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Re: devanagari is missing an accent in newest beta

[Arthur Reutenauer]

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:50:14AM +0200, Ulrike Fischer wrote:
> Screenshots and code that show the difference and the missing accent
> in the xelatex and context output are in this comment
> 
> https://github.com/u-fischer/luaotfload/issues/9#issuecomment-431288932
> 
> the older (perfect) output is in a comment above
> https://github.com/u-fischer/luaotfload/issues/9#issuecomment-426978522

  The missing “accent” is a repha, a form of the consonant ra.  It seems
to have been replaced by a middle dot, to the right of the base
consonant.  I can’t be completely sure because it’s protruding into the
next consonant so it’s almost indistinguishable from it, but I think
that’s what happened.

	Best,

		Arthur
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Re: devanagari is missing an accent in newest beta

[Ulrike Fischer]

Am Fri, 19 Oct 2018 11:36:48 +0200 schrieb Arthur Reutenauer:

>> Screenshots and code that show the difference and the missing accent
>> in the xelatex and context output are in this comment

>> https://github.com/u-fischer/luaotfload/issues/9#issuecomment-431288932

>> the older (perfect) output is in a comment above
>> https://github.com/u-fischer/luaotfload/issues/9#issuecomment-426978522
> 
>   The missing “accent” is a repha, a form of the consonant ra.  It seems
> to have been replaced by a middle dot, to the right of the base
> consonant.  I can’t be completely sure because it’s protruding into the
> next consonant so it’s almost indistinguishable from it, but I think
> that’s what happened.

Yes, good catch. there is a dot. But I'm wondering if I saw ghosts
when thinking that it worked before. I can't find no commit which
changes to the "right" output and also in a older context it is
wrong. 



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Re: devanagari is missing an accent in newest beta

[Melroch]

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I haven't seen the examples since my tablet refuses to display them, but I
wonder if you have run into a difference between Hindi and Marathi
typography. The repha in Marathi is sometimes represented as a slightly
curved stroke between two letters. Googling "eyelash repha" I found this:

http://unicode.org/~emuller/iwg/p8/utcdoc.html

Den fre 19 okt 2018 13:30Ulrike Fischer <news3@nililand.de> skrev:

> Am Fri, 19 Oct 2018 11:36:48 +0200 schrieb Arthur Reutenauer:
>
> >> Screenshots and code that show the difference and the missing accent
> >> in the xelatex and context output are in this comment
>
> >> https://github.com/u-fischer/luaotfload/issues/9#issuecomment-431288932
>
> >> the older (perfect) output is in a comment above
> >> https://github.com/u-fischer/luaotfload/issues/9#issuecomment-426978522
> >
> >   The missing “accent” is a repha, a form of the consonant ra.  It seems
> > to have been replaced by a middle dot, to the right of the base
> > consonant.  I can’t be completely sure because it’s protruding into the
> > next consonant so it’s almost indistinguishable from it, but I think
> > that’s what happened.
>
> Yes, good catch. there is a dot. But I'm wondering if I saw ghosts
> when thinking that it worked before. I can't find no commit which
> changes to the "right" output and also in a older context it is
> wrong.
>
>
>
> --
> Ulrike Fischer
> http://www.troubleshooting-tex.de/
>
>
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Re: devanagari is missing an accent in newest beta

[Arthur Reutenauer]

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:08:01AM +0200, Melroch wrote:
> I haven't seen the examples since my tablet refuses to display them, but I
> wonder if you have run into a difference between Hindi and Marathi
> typography. The repha in Marathi is sometimes represented as a slightly
> curved stroke between two letters.

  Thanks Benct, but the little dot I think I see (actually a square
shape) does not look like that.

>                                    Googling "eyelash repha" I found this:
> 
> http://unicode.org/~emuller/iwg/p8/utcdoc.html

  The source standard also works :-)

  The Unicode Standard version 11.0, p. 455 (part of chapter 12,
http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode11.0.0/ch12.pdf)

	Best,

		Arthur
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