TeXlive 2020 / Gentoo Linux: ConTeXt does not find itself (sort of)...]

TeXlive 2020 / Gentoo Linux: ConTeXt does not find itself (sort of)...]

[mylists]

Hi,

this is my first post to this mailinglist. I am no native speaker...
if something sound somehow ... I will try to give my best.... ;)


I am using GENTOO Linux, which compiles everything on the target
instead of pulling ready compiled, binary packages into the system.

I did a fresh install of Texlive 2020 via the package-manager
"emerge". On Gentoo this is handled via a "virtual package", which 
can be configured beforehand to include or exclude certain parts.

I choose to get the HUGE package (incluing LaTeX, ConTeXt, plainTeX
and others).

After the installation I tried to typeset examples of a LaTeX- and
a plain TeX document, which works out of the box.

Then I tried a ConTeXt document and it fails:

    context somefile.tex 

gave me:

mtxrun          | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'

. 

While searching the internet I found, that one has to run 

mtxrun --generate 

in advance.

Doing so mtxrun starts to index my whole harddisk starting with
my $HOME, from which I started it.

It reports A LOT of "confusing file"s....

I searched the installed TeXlive installation for context.lua 
and mtx-context.lua -- they were installed and not "totally" missing.

So I tried/guessed to run

mtxrun --generate /usr/share/texmf-dist /usr/share/texlive-site

and the file under $HOME were no longer indexed.

context somefile.tex

gave me the above mentioned error still, though.

It "feels" like context does not respect setting made via
the configuration settings under /etc/texmf...

So I "hacked" (really, it was a crude hack/idea...nothing
more) TEXMF and inserted

export TEXMF=/usr/share/texmf-dist:/usr/share/texlive-site

into my shells RC-file, restarted the shell and

now

context somefile.tex

"worked"...:

Each time it seems to re-index parts of ???, reports a lot
of "confusing file"s but creates a valid looking pdf.

I think, the package setup provided by GENTOO has a problem
I want to help to fix that...but I have no clue, what the
real culprit is here...

Setting TEXMF this way feels like a random and accidentally
working hack and I already feel the next problem raising up
at the horizon...

Some additional problems:

tlmgr does not work

mtxrun partially does not find its own modules

mtxrun --variables 

lists a LOT of unset environment variables

...

It looks like some basic and fundamental "initial" environment
variable is missing.

But I need a knowledgeable guru before I am able to get nearer
to the root of the culprit.

Thank you very much in advance for any help offered!

\cheers
Meino
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Re: TeXlive 2020 / Gentoo Linux: ConTeXt does not find itself (sort of)...]

[Matthijs van der Wild]

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If I compare /usr/share/texmf-dist/web2c/texmfconf.lua with its counterpart
in Arch Linux, I found the differences in the following entries:

Gentoo:

> TEXMFSYSVAR     = "selfautoparent:texmf-var",
> TEXMFOS         = "selfautodir:",
> TEXMFDIST       = "selfautoparent:texmf-dist",
> TEXMFSYSCONFIG  = "selfautoparent:texmf-config",
>

Arch:

> TEXMFSYSVAR     = "/var/lib/texmf",
> TEXMFOS         = "selfautodir:share",
> TEXMFDIST       = "selfautodir:share/texmf-dist",
> TEXMFSYSCONFIG  = "/etc/texmf",
>

Changing the Gentoo file to its Arch equivalent fixes the issue after
running "mtxrun --generate". There may actually be a reason why this
configuration is different in Gentoo compared to Arch, but I haven't had
the time yet to look into it further.

On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 13:27, <mylists@posteo.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> this is my first post to this mailinglist. I am no native speaker...
> if something sound somehow ... I will try to give my best.... ;)
>
>
> I am using GENTOO Linux, which compiles everything on the target
> instead of pulling ready compiled, binary packages into the system.
>
> I did a fresh install of Texlive 2020 via the package-manager
> "emerge". On Gentoo this is handled via a "virtual package", which
> can be configured beforehand to include or exclude certain parts.
>
> I choose to get the HUGE package (incluing LaTeX, ConTeXt, plainTeX
> and others).
>
> After the installation I tried to typeset examples of a LaTeX- and
> a plain TeX document, which works out of the box.
>
> Then I tried a ConTeXt document and it fails:
>
>     context somefile.tex
>
> gave me:
>
> mtxrun          | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
>
> .
>
> While searching the internet I found, that one has to run
>
> mtxrun --generate
>
> in advance.
>
> Doing so mtxrun starts to index my whole harddisk starting with
> my $HOME, from which I started it.
>
> It reports A LOT of "confusing file"s....
>
> I searched the installed TeXlive installation for context.lua
> and mtx-context.lua -- they were installed and not "totally" missing.
>
> So I tried/guessed to run
>
> mtxrun --generate /usr/share/texmf-dist /usr/share/texlive-site
>
> and the file under $HOME were no longer indexed.
>
> context somefile.tex
>
> gave me the above mentioned error still, though.
>
> It "feels" like context does not respect setting made via
> the configuration settings under /etc/texmf...
>
> So I "hacked" (really, it was a crude hack/idea...nothing
> more) TEXMF and inserted
>
> export TEXMF=/usr/share/texmf-dist:/usr/share/texlive-site
>
> into my shells RC-file, restarted the shell and
>
> now
>
> context somefile.tex
>
> "worked"...:
>
> Each time it seems to re-index parts of ???, reports a lot
> of "confusing file"s but creates a valid looking pdf.
>
> I think, the package setup provided by GENTOO has a problem
> I want to help to fix that...but I have no clue, what the
> real culprit is here...
>
> Setting TEXMF this way feels like a random and accidentally
> working hack and I already feel the next problem raising up
> at the horizon...
>
> Some additional problems:
>
> tlmgr does not work
>
> mtxrun partially does not find its own modules
>
> mtxrun --variables
>
> lists a LOT of unset environment variables
>
> ...
>
> It looks like some basic and fundamental "initial" environment
> variable is missing.
>
> But I need a knowledgeable guru before I am able to get nearer
> to the root of the culprit.
>
> Thank you very much in advance for any help offered!
>
> \cheers
> Meino
>
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to
> the Wiki!
>
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>

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Re: TeXlive 2020 / Gentoo Linux: ConTeXt does not find itself (sort of)...]

[mylists]

Hi Matthijs,

thanks for your support. My first attempts to change the installation
accordingly failed unfortunately.

( I had tried to change /usr/share/texmf-dist/web2c/texmfcnf.lua  )

What file/place would be the best to adapt these settings?

Cheers!
Meino




On 09/09 02:46, Matthijs van der Wild wrote:
> If I compare /usr/share/texmf-dist/web2c/texmfconf.lua with its counterpart
> in Arch Linux, I found the differences in the following entries:
> 
> Gentoo:
> 
> > TEXMFSYSVAR     = "selfautoparent:texmf-var",
> > TEXMFOS         = "selfautodir:",
> > TEXMFDIST       = "selfautoparent:texmf-dist",
> > TEXMFSYSCONFIG  = "selfautoparent:texmf-config",
> >
> 
> Arch:
> 
> > TEXMFSYSVAR     = "/var/lib/texmf",
> > TEXMFOS         = "selfautodir:share",
> > TEXMFDIST       = "selfautodir:share/texmf-dist",
> > TEXMFSYSCONFIG  = "/etc/texmf",
> >
> 
> Changing the Gentoo file to its Arch equivalent fixes the issue after
> running "mtxrun --generate". There may actually be a reason why this
> configuration is different in Gentoo compared to Arch, but I haven't had
> the time yet to look into it further.
> 
> On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 13:27, <mylists@posteo.de> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > this is my first post to this mailinglist. I am no native speaker...
> > if something sound somehow ... I will try to give my best.... ;)
> >
> >
> > I am using GENTOO Linux, which compiles everything on the target
> > instead of pulling ready compiled, binary packages into the system.
> >
> > I did a fresh install of Texlive 2020 via the package-manager
> > "emerge". On Gentoo this is handled via a "virtual package", which
> > can be configured beforehand to include or exclude certain parts.
> >
> > I choose to get the HUGE package (incluing LaTeX, ConTeXt, plainTeX
> > and others).
> >
> > After the installation I tried to typeset examples of a LaTeX- and
> > a plain TeX document, which works out of the box.
> >
> > Then I tried a ConTeXt document and it fails:
> >
> >     context somefile.tex
> >
> > gave me:
> >
> > mtxrun          | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
> >
> > .
> >
> > While searching the internet I found, that one has to run
> >
> > mtxrun --generate
> >
> > in advance.
> >
> > Doing so mtxrun starts to index my whole harddisk starting with
> > my $HOME, from which I started it.
> >
> > It reports A LOT of "confusing file"s....
> >
> > I searched the installed TeXlive installation for context.lua
> > and mtx-context.lua -- they were installed and not "totally" missing.
> >
> > So I tried/guessed to run
> >
> > mtxrun --generate /usr/share/texmf-dist /usr/share/texlive-site
> >
> > and the file under $HOME were no longer indexed.
> >
> > context somefile.tex
> >
> > gave me the above mentioned error still, though.
> >
> > It "feels" like context does not respect setting made via
> > the configuration settings under /etc/texmf...
> >
> > So I "hacked" (really, it was a crude hack/idea...nothing
> > more) TEXMF and inserted
> >
> > export TEXMF=/usr/share/texmf-dist:/usr/share/texlive-site
> >
> > into my shells RC-file, restarted the shell and
> >
> > now
> >
> > context somefile.tex
> >
> > "worked"...:
> >
> > Each time it seems to re-index parts of ???, reports a lot
> > of "confusing file"s but creates a valid looking pdf.
> >
> > I think, the package setup provided by GENTOO has a problem
> > I want to help to fix that...but I have no clue, what the
> > real culprit is here...
> >
> > Setting TEXMF this way feels like a random and accidentally
> > working hack and I already feel the next problem raising up
> > at the horizon...
> >
> > Some additional problems:
> >
> > tlmgr does not work
> >
> > mtxrun partially does not find its own modules
> >
> > mtxrun --variables
> >
> > lists a LOT of unset environment variables
> >
> > ...
> >
> > It looks like some basic and fundamental "initial" environment
> > variable is missing.
> >
> > But I need a knowledgeable guru before I am able to get nearer
> > to the root of the culprit.
> >
> > Thank you very much in advance for any help offered!
> >
> > \cheers
> > Meino
> >
> > ___________________________________________________________________________________
> > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to
> > the Wiki!
> >
> > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
> > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
> > webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net
> > archive  : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/
> > wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
> >
> > ___________________________________________________________________________________
> >

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