From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/98234 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mathias Schickel Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: next beta Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 11:33:16 +0200 Message-ID: <20620E9B-2551-4252-AD63-DA4D84330E0C@fa.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <13348d20-5dfe-791c-7db1-5d4f481f1a06@wxs.nl> <1f32a450-1428-d045-c852-15007a09d271@wxs.nl> <3672E708-6D53-4C5F-A42C-F5187F32B67A@fa.uni-tuebingen.de> <2e976f0b-9a2b-93a5-417d-68c55c18113a@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8710852564706623532==" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1497432854 24234 195.159.176.226 (14 Jun 2017 09:34:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2017 09:34:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users To: Hans Hagen Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Jun 14 11:34:04 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from zapf.boekplan.nl ([5.39.185.232] helo=zapf.ntg.nl) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dL4ge-0005o6-3i for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Jun 2017 11:34:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8ED610409F; Wed, 14 Jun 2017 11:33:31 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.boekplan.nl Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05gpCjA9AgK2; Wed, 14 Jun 2017 11:33:29 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0126104093; Wed, 14 Jun 2017 11:33:29 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60B04104093 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2017 11:33:28 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.boekplan.nl Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FV-ngROlJ_po for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2017 11:33:27 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mx03.uni-tuebingen.de (mx03.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.5.213]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 994DC104092 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 2017 11:33:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from math.uni-tuebingen.de (kyle.am10.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.182.22]) by mx03.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65F9380C4B; Wed, 14 Jun 2017 11:33:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.14] (ip-37-201-4-91.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de [37.201.4.91]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: msch) by math.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2FF5A1E0AC0; Wed, 14 Jun 2017 11:33:17 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <2e976f0b-9a2b-93a5-417d-68c55c18113a@wxs.nl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: "ntg-context" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:98234 Archived-At: --===============8710852564706623532== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_5A11D541-2D21-47C5-8212-B1FD8BDBACAF" --Apple-Mail=_5A11D541-2D21-47C5-8212-B1FD8BDBACAF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Am 13.06.2017 um 16:46 schrieb Hans Hagen : >=20 > On 6/13/2017 1:18 PM, Mathias Schickel wrote: >>> Am 12.06.2017 um 18:17 schrieb Hans Hagen : >>>=20 >>> On 6/12/2017 5:56 PM, Mathias Schickel wrote: >>>> Hi Hans, >>>> if I get it right this means that you provide a mechanism that = brakes formulas automatically across several lines? I appreciate this = very much! Thank you for including this into the next beta! >>>> Would it be possible to do something like that for breaking long = formulas across pages (or is that maybe included in the new mechanism)? >>> that's more complex and interferes with other aspects so maybe later >> Okay, that would be really great. Maybe a semi-automatic breaking = across pages could be doable. The AMS package for LaTeX implements = something like that. If you write \allowbreak (I am not absolutely sure = if this is the true command, but it is something like that) at a line of = an equation with multiple lines the typesetting algorithm knows that the = formula can be broken across pages at that point. >> If something like that could be done in ConTeXt it would be really = great. At present it is somewhat complicated to handle equations with = many lines since you have to typeset the text and check if everything = fits. If you could mark certain lines of an equation to be allowed to be = broken at the end of a page, working with multiple line equations would = be much easier and faster. > attached what will be provided ... experimental for a while (not in = the mood now for harder stuff) That looks really good! Will it be possible to combine that with = \startmathalignment? And if not can you pass several \alignhere commands = and force breaking at user defined places? (I tried out to test it myself but the new feature is not yet uploaded = to the garden version.) >=20 > Hans >=20 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl = | www.pragma-pod.nl = > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > --Apple-Mail=_5A11D541-2D21-47C5-8212-B1FD8BDBACAF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Am 13.06.2017 um 16:46 schrieb = Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:

On 6/13/2017 1:18 = PM, Mathias Schickel wrote:
Am 12.06.2017 um 18:17 = schrieb Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:

On = 6/12/2017 5:56 PM, Mathias Schickel wrote:
Hi Hans,
if I get it right this = means that you provide a mechanism that brakes formulas automatically = across several lines? I appreciate this very much! Thank you for = including this into the next beta!
Would it be possible to = do something like that for breaking long formulas across pages (or is = that maybe included in the new mechanism)?
that's more complex and interferes with other = aspects so maybe later
Okay, that would be = really great. Maybe a semi-automatic breaking across pages could be = doable. The AMS package for LaTeX implements something like that. If you = write \allowbreak (I am not absolutely sure if this is the true command, = but it is something like that) at a line of an equation with multiple = lines the typesetting algorithm knows that the formula can be broken = across pages at that point.
If something like that could = be done in ConTeXt it would be really great. At present it is somewhat = complicated to handle equations with many lines since you have to = typeset the text and check if everything fits. If you could mark certain = lines of an equation to be allowed to be broken at the end of a page, = working with multiple line equations would be much easier and faster.
attached what will be provided ... = experimental for a while (not in the mood now for harder = stuff)

That looks really good! Will it be possible to = combine that with \startmathalignment? And if not can you pass several = \alignhere commands and force breaking at user defined = places?
(I tried out to test it myself but the new feature is = not yet uploaded to the garden version.)


Hans
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