From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/27634 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Gerben Wierda" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Simple problem with quotation paragraph Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 12:08:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <21245.159.46.248.233.1146737316.squirrel@mail.rna.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1146737446 1768 80.91.229.2 (4 May 2006 10:10:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 10:10:46 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu May 04 12:10:43 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fbamw-000296-Uh for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 May 2006 12:10:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682BE12783; Thu, 4 May 2006 12:10:26 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20092-06; Thu, 4 May 2006 12:10:26 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E95A127A5; Thu, 4 May 2006 12:08:40 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159B2127A5 for ; Thu, 4 May 2006 12:08:39 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13809-07 for ; Thu, 4 May 2006 12:08:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from post-24.mail.nl.demon.net (post-24.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.194]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id D7B4C12783 for ; Thu, 4 May 2006 12:08:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ii2.demon.nl ([82.161.98.36]:14943 helo=mail.rna.nl) by post-24.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FbalA-000H6v-Jf for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Thu, 04 May 2006 10:08:36 +0000 Original-Received: from mail.rna.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.rna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CB049D706 for ; Thu, 4 May 2006 12:08:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from 159.46.248.233 (SquirrelMail authenticated user gerben) by mail.rna.nl with HTTP; Thu, 4 May 2006 12:08:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:27634 Archived-At: I am having a simple problem I can't solve by reading the manuals. I want to quote a fragment of a book which contains amongst others a discussion (Plato's Protagoras to be precise). Normally, my book has no whitespace between paragraphs and small indentation, but here I want a small amount of whitespace between paragraphs and also narrower. I'd like to setup some form of quotation paragraph style to use. I started out with \startquotation but I do not want quotes, so now I use startnarrower, but what I need is a paragraph style. Maybe another font (1pt smaller) is nice too. And noindenting while the rest of the book uses indenting. What I would like to do is something like \startBookQuote \stopBookQuote and on the inside I get a small whitespace between paragraphs, no indentation, a smaller font and a narrower textwidth. My last try was: \defineparagraphs[BookQuote][n=1,before={\indenting[never]\whitespace\startnarrower},after={\indenting[yes]\nowhitespace\stopnarrower}] in my environment file, but that gave me page breaks as soon as \startBookQuote was given and the quotes themselves do not receive page breaks, hence a quote more than one page (I have a few) ends up being a column of one page but just running from the page. So, it seems \defineparagraphs is out, because I do not get page breaks inside the quote. But what should I do? Thanks in advance, G PS. any sight on a decent ConTeXt book, btw? The manuals and wiki seldomly give me answers that work for me and often I find ConTeXt rather counterintuitive, e.g. setupparagraphs for something that is a table/column kind of thing, or confusing (\define vs \setup vs rest)