\setupuserpagenumber not working as expected

\setupuserpagenumber not working as expected

[jbf]

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Am seeking to have frontmatter pages in roman numerals and from Chapter 
1 onwards in arabic numerals. I have achieved something of the kind, but 
page 1 (arabic) is appearing on the last page of the frontmatter and not 
the first page of Chapter 1. I do not know why this is happening. My 
setup for page numbering is as follows (something I found somewhere - 
wiki? elsewhere? Not sure. I didn't make it up!):

\definestructureconversionset[frontpart:pagenumber][][romannumerals]
\definestructureconversionset[bodypart:pagenumber] [][numbers]
\startsectionblockenvironment[frontpart]
\setupuserpagenumber[numberconversion=romannumerals]
\setuplist[chapter][pageconversionset=pagenumber]
\setuppagenumber[number=1]
\stopsectionblockenvironment

\startsectionblockenvironment[bodypart]
\setuppagenumber[number=1]
\stopsectionblockenvironment

The frontmatter is some 16 pages worth (ends on a verso page but that 
verso carries the arabic number 1 instead of page xvi which it should 
be, since the final paragraph on that page ends with \stopfrontmatter. 
That means Chapter 1 (immediately after \startbodymatter) is now page 2 
instead of page 1!

I tried a slightly simpler version of the above which I found on 
Stackexchange:

|\definestructureconversionset[frontpart:pagenumber][][romannumerals]||
|

|\startsectionblockenvironment[bodypart]|

|\setcounter[userpage][1]\stopsectionblockenvironment|

but it gave me the same result. Any idea how I can get the correct result?

Julian


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Re: \setupuserpagenumber not working as expected

[Wolfgang Schuster]

jbf schrieb am 03.09.2020 um 06:04:
> Am seeking to have frontmatter pages in roman numerals and from Chapter 
> 1 onwards in arabic numerals. I have achieved something of the kind, but 
> page 1 (arabic) is appearing on the last page of the frontmatter and not 
> the first page of Chapter 1. I do not know why this is happening. My 
> setup for page numbering is as follows (something I found somewhere - 
> wiki? elsewhere? Not sure. I didn't make it up!):
> 
> \definestructureconversionset[frontpart:pagenumber][][romannumerals]
> \definestructureconversionset[bodypart:pagenumber] [][numbers]
> \startsectionblockenvironment[frontpart]
> \setupuserpagenumber[numberconversion=romannumerals]
> \setuplist[chapter][pageconversionset=pagenumber]
> \setuppagenumber[number=1]
> \stopsectionblockenvironment
> 
> \startsectionblockenvironment[bodypart]
> \setuppagenumber[number=1]
> \stopsectionblockenvironment
> 
> The frontmatter is some 16 pages worth (ends on a verso page but that 
> verso carries the arabic number 1 instead of page xvi which it should 
> be, since the final paragraph on that page ends with \stopfrontmatter. 
> That means Chapter 1 (immediately after \startbodymatter) is now page 2 
> instead of page 1!
> 
> I tried a slightly simpler version of the above which I found on 
> Stackexchange:
> 
> |\definestructureconversionset[frontpart:pagenumber][][romannumerals]||
> |
> 
> |\startsectionblockenvironment[bodypart]|
> 
> |\setcounter[userpage][1]\stopsectionblockenvironment|
> 
> but it gave me the same result. Any idea how I can get the correct result?

Do you have these settings in your document?

     \setupsectionblock [frontpart] [page=]
     \setupsectionblock [bodypart]  [page=]

When this is the case change them to

     \setupsectionblock [frontpart] [page=yes]
     \setupsectionblock [bodypart]  [page=yes]

or add

     \page

before \stopfrontmatter.

Wolfgang
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Re: \setupuserpagenumber not working as expected

[Jan Willem Flamma]

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Re: \setupuserpagenumber not working as expected

[Wolfgang Schuster]

jbf schrieb am 03.09.2020 um 06:32:
> Thanks Wolfgang. I did have the respective setupsectionblocks, but 
> they said [page= ], so I have now changed them to [page=yes] and 
> things work as expected. I also tried the second \page method you 
> offered, which, naturally enough, also works. I take it there is no 
> 'purist' preference for either of these solutions?

You can improve the second method with the following setup

\setupsectionblock [frontpart] [after=\page] % after={\page[right]}

Wolfgang

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Re: \setupuserpagenumber not working as expected

[jbf]

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Thanks Jan, that is an extensive bit of work below! Might take me a 
while to digest, but I'll explore it carefully.

Julian

On 3/9/20 6:29 pm, Jan Willem Flamma wrote:
>
> Dear Julian,
>
> I use something similar using a main product file, an environment file 
> that contain the styling and several components that build up the 
> frontmatter, the manual and the appendices.
>
> Below my setup where I start the roman numbering on the table of 
> contents page (page 5 or v in roman)
>
> Once the bodymatter starts the pagenumber is set  to the arabic 1 (see 
> below in the main product file)
>
> You should be able to copy and adapt to your needs.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jan Willem Flamma
>
> *The main product file*
>
> ==============
>
> \environment env-WA
>
> \startproduct currentproduct
>
> % Document definitions
>
> \define\MyManual{Course Manual}
>
> \define\MyTitle{Title}
>
> \define\MySubtitleOne{Subtitle 1}
>
> \define\MySubtitleTwo{Subtitle 2}
>
> \define\MyRevnumber{Revision number}
>
> % Load frontmatter files
>
> \startfrontmatter
>
> \component fm-frontpage
>
> \component fm-titlepage
>
> \component fm-tableofcontents
>
> \stopfrontmatter
>
> % Load bodymatter file
>
> \startbodymatter
>
> \setupbackgrounds
>
> [leftpage]
>
> [setups=pagenumber:left]
>
> \setupbackgrounds
>
> [rightpage]
>
> [setups=pagenumber:right]
>
> \setuppagenumber[number=1]
>
> \component co-01
>
> \component co-02
>
> \stopbodymatter
>
> % Load backmatter files
>
> \startbackmatter
>
> \setupbackgrounds
>
> [leftpage]
>
> [setups=pagenumber:left]
>
> \setupbackgrounds
>
> [rightpage]
>
> [setups=pagenumber:right]
>
> \startappendices
>
> \component co-ap-01
>
> \component co-ap-02
>
> \stopappendices
>
> \stopbackmatter
>
> % Load external PDF documents
>
> \setuppagenumber[state=stop]
>
> \copypages[External PDF/app1.pdf][n=4]
>
> \stopproduct
>
> =============
>
> *The env-WA.tex file (below is about pagenumbering only)*
>
> =============
>
> % Start chapter on right (odd) page, pagenumber = bottom right
>
> \setuppagenumbering
>
> [alternative=doublesided,
>
>      location=right]
>
> % Pagenumbering style
>
> \definestructureconversionset
>
> [frontpart:pagenumber][][romannumerals]
>
> \definestructureconversionset
>
> [bodypart:pagenumber] [][numbers]
>
> \definestructureconversionset
>
> [appendix:pagenumber] [][numbers]
>
> =============
>
> *The fm-frontpage.tex file*
>
> ============
>
> \startcomponent currentcomponent
>
> \product product
>
> % Front page layout
>
> \startstandardmakeup
>
> % Place logo centered on page
>
> \framed[height=5cm,width=broad,frame=off]
>
> {\externalfigure[frontpage-logo.png][width=12cm]}
>
> % Place course titles
>
> \blank[6*big]
>
> \color[Modu_Blue]{\midaligned{\bfc \MyManual}}
>
> \blank[4*big]
>
> \color[Modu_Blue]{\midaligned{\tfc \MyTitle}}
>
> \blank[2*big]
>
> \color[Modu_Blue]{\midaligned{\tfc \MySubtitleOne}}
>
> \blank[2*big]
>
> \color[Modu_Blue]{\midaligned{\tfc \MySubtitleTwo}}
>
> \vfill
>
> \stopstandardmakeup
>
> \stopcomponent
>
> ============
>
> *The fm-titlepage.tex file*
>
> ============
>
> \startcomponent currentcomponent
>
> \product product
>
> \startstandardmakeup
>
> \color[Modu_Blue]{\midaligned{\tfb \MyManual}}
>
> \blank[2*big]
>
> \color[Modu_Blue]{\midaligned{\tfb \MyTitle}}
>
> \blank[2*big]
>
> \color[Modu_Blue]{\midaligned{\tfb \MySubtitleOne}}
>
> \blank[2*big]
>
> \color[Modu_Blue]{\midaligned{\tfb \MySubtitleTwo}}
>
> \blank[10*big]
>
> \color[Modu_Blue]{\midaligned{\tfb \MyRevnumber}}
>
> \blank
>
> \midaligned{\color[Modu_Blue]{\tfb \currentdate[month,year]}}
>
> \blank[10*big]
>
> \midaligned{\color[Modu_Blue]{\tfb Written by:}}
>
> \blank
>
> \midaligned{\color[Modu_Blue]{\tfb Company name}}
>
> \blank
>
> \midaligned{\color[Modu_Blue]{\tfb City, Country}}
>
> \vfill
>
> \stopstandardmakeup
>
> \stopcomponent
>
> ============
>
> *The fm-tableofcontents.tex file*
>
> ============
>
> \startcomponent currentcomponent
>
> \product product
>
> \setupbackgrounds
>
> [leftpage]
>
> [setups=pagenumber:left]
>
> \setupbackgrounds
>
> [rightpage]
>
> [setups=pagenumber:right]
>
> % This is where I want the roman numbering to start
>
> \setuppagenumber[number=5]
>
> \starttitle[title=Table of Contents]
>
> \placecontent
>
> \stoptitle
>
> \stopcomponent
>
> ============
>
> *From: *jbf <mailto:roma83537@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Thursday, 3 September 2020 06:05
> *To: *mailing list for ConTeXt users <mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>
> *Subject: *[NTG-context] \setupuserpagenumber not working as expected
>
> Am seeking to have frontmatter pages in roman numerals and from 
> Chapter 1 onwards in arabic numerals. I have achieved something of the 
> kind, but page 1 (arabic) is appearing on the last page of the 
> frontmatter and not the first page of Chapter 1. I do not know why 
> this is happening. My setup for page numbering is as follows 
> (something I found somewhere - wiki? elsewhere? Not sure. I didn't 
> make it up!):
>
> \definestructureconversionset[frontpart:pagenumber][][romannumerals]
> \definestructureconversionset[bodypart:pagenumber] [][numbers]
> \startsectionblockenvironment[frontpart]
> \setupuserpagenumber[numberconversion=romannumerals]
> \setuplist[chapter][pageconversionset=pagenumber]
> \setuppagenumber[number=1]
> \stopsectionblockenvironment
>
> \startsectionblockenvironment[bodypart]
> \setuppagenumber[number=1]
> \stopsectionblockenvironment
>
> The frontmatter is some 16 pages worth (ends on a verso page but that 
> verso carries the arabic number 1 instead of page xvi which it should 
> be, since the final paragraph on that page ends with \stopfrontmatter. 
> That means Chapter 1 (immediately after \startbodymatter) is now page 
> 2 instead of page 1!
>
> I tried a slightly simpler version of the above which I found on 
> Stackexchange:
>
> \definestructureconversionset[frontpart:pagenumber][][romannumerals]
>
> \startsectionblockenvironment[bodypart]
>
> \setcounter[userpage][1]
> \stopsectionblockenvironment
>
> but it gave me the same result. Any idea how I can get the correct result?
>
> Julian
>
>
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Re: \setupuserpagenumber not working as expected

[Jan Willem Flamma]

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Re: \setupuserpagenumber not working as expected

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Jan Willem Flamma schrieb am 03.09.2020 um 10:29:
> Dear Julian,
> 
> I use something similar using a main product file, an environment file 
> that contain the styling and several components that build up the 
> frontmatter, the manual and the appendices.
> 
> Below my setup where I start the roman numbering on the table of 
> contents page (page 5 or v in roman)
> 
> Once the bodymatter starts the pagenumber is set  to the arabic 1 (see 
> below in the main product file)
> 
> You should be able to copy and adapt to your needs.

There are lot of things which can be improved in your example.

1. Pass the filename of the component/product to \startcomponent and not 
some dummy name (or just use *), this allows you to print the filename 
with \currentcomponent or \currentproduct

2. Use \setvariables or \setupdocument to set the document title, 
revision etc.

3. Use \startsectionblockenvironment to move setups from the document 
content into the environment file.

4. Use pagestate=start to increase the page counter with 
\startstandardmakeup.

5. Set search path for figures (\copypages use the figure mechanism) 
with \setupexternalfigure[location=...].

Below is a modified (but untested) version of your sample document.

Wolfgang


%%%% begin product
\startproduct product

\environment env-WA

% \setvariables
%   [document]
%   [     manual={Course Manual},
%          title={Title},
%    subtitleone={Subtitle 1},
%    subtitletwo={Subtitle 2},
%      revnumber={Revision number}]

\setupdocument
   [     manual={Course Manual},
          title={Title},
    subtitleone={Subtitle 1},
    subtitletwo={Subtitle 2},
      revnumber={Revision number}]

\startfrontmatter

   \component fm-frontpage
   \component fm-titlepage
   \component fm-tableofcontents

\stopfrontmatter

\startbodymatter

   \component co-01
   \component co-02

\stopbodymatter

\startappendices

   \component co-ap-01
   \component co-ap-02

\stopappendices

\startbackmatter

   \copypages[app1.pdf][n=4]

\stopbackmatter

\stopproduct
%%%% end product

%%%% begin environment
\startenvironment env-WA

\setuppagenumbering
   [alternative=doublesided, 

    location=right] 


\defineconversionset
   [frontpart:pagenumber] [] [romannumerals]

\setupexternalfigures
   [directory={External PDF}]

\startsectionblockenvironment [frontpart]

   \setupbackgrounds
     [leftpage]
     [setups=pagenumber:left]

   \setupbackgrounds
     [rightpage]
     [setups=pagenumber:right]

\stopsectionblockenvironment

\startsectionblockenvironment [bodypart]

   \setupbackgrounds
     [leftpage]
     [setups=pagenumber:left]

   \setupbackgrounds
     [rightpage]
     [setups=pagenumber:right]

   \setuppagenumber
     [number=1]

\stopsectionblockenvironment

\startsectionblockenvironment [appendix]

   \setupbackgrounds
     [leftpage]
     [setups=pagenumber:left]

   \setupbackgrounds
     [rightpage]
     [setups=pagenumber:right]

\stopsectionblockenvironment

\startsectionblockenvironment [backpart]

   \setuppagenumber[state=stop]

\stopsectionblockenvironment

\stopenvironment
%%%% end environment

%%%% begin component
\startcomponent fm-frontpage

\product product

\startstandardmakeup [top=,pagestate=start,align=middle,color=Modu_Blue]

% \dontleavehmode\externalfigure[frontpage-logo.png][width=12cm]

\framed
   [height=5cm,width=broad,frame=off]
   {\externalfigure[frontpage-logo.png][width=12cm]}

\blank[6*big]

{\bfc \documentvariable{manual}}

\blank[4*big]

{\tfc \documentvariable{title}}

\blank[2*big]

{\tfc \documentvariable{subtitleone}}

\blank[2*big]

{\tfc \documentvariable{subtitletwo}}

\stopstandardmakeup

\stopcomponent
%%%% end component

%%%% begin component
\startcomponent fm-titlepage

\product product

\startstandardmakeup [top=,pagestate=start,align=middle,color=Modu_Blue]

{\tfb \documentvariable{manual}}

\blank[2*big]

{\tfb \documentvariable{title}}

\blank[2*big]

{\tfb \documentvariable{subtitleone}}

\blank[2*big]

{\tfb \documentvariable{subtitletwo}}

\blank[10*big]

{\tfb \documentvariable{revnumber}}

\blank

{\tfb \currentdate[month,year]}

\blank[10*big]

{\tfb Written by:}

\blank

{\tfb Company name}

\blank

{\tfb City, Country}

\stopstandardmakeup

\stopcomponent
%%%% end component

%%%% begin component
\startcomponent fm-tableofcontents

\product product

\starttitle [title=Table of Contents]

\placecontent

\stoptitle

\stopcomponent
%%%% end component
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Re: \setupuserpagenumber not working as expected

[Jan Willem Flamma]

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