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Joseph=E2=80=AF: > With LMTX (MkIV is fine) characterspacing (I use frenchpunctuation) is not > applied sometimes (ie no spacing before colon for example) in some parts = of Character-spacing for French punctuation marks is incorrect in MkIV anyway = :=20 the =E2=80=9Cthin=E2=80=9D spaces are much too wide. I will write more abou= t it when I have=20 more time. I have just begun to lean ConTeXt. For the time being, I don=E2= =80=99t use=20 its automatic spacing for French punctuation, but real Unicode spaces such = as=20 U+202F (non breakable thin space, about 0.125 em, depending on the font). By the way, thin spaces are not specific to French typography, historically= =20 speaking, since they seem to have been used everywhere in Europe for centur= ies=20 =E2=80=94 at least in England, Belgium, Germany and Italy (probably in the = Netherlands=20 too, I will check). In France and sometimes in England, thin spaces were of= ten=20 used before commas as well. I wonder why most countries stopped using them.= =20 Out of laziness=E2=80=AF? :-) Greetings, Thomas Savary 1 le Grand-Plessis =46-85340 L=E2=80=99=C3=8Ele-d=E2=80=99Olonne T=C3=A9l. 06 22 82 61 34 https://correctionpro.fr/ https://compo85.fr/ mardi 14 janvier 2020, =C3=A0 22:58:57 CET, Joseph a =C3=A9crit : > Hello, >=20 > =20 >=20 > With LMTX (MkIV is fine) characterspacing (I use frenchpunctuation) is not > applied sometimes (ie no spacing before colon for example) in some parts = of > the text. Unfortunately so far I cannot provide a MWE so I am wondering if > there is a way to trace this to hopefully figure out what the problem is. >=20 > Many thanks >=20 > =20 >=20 > Regards >=20 > =20 >=20 > Joseph --nextPart2549672.XskajxUx9E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"

Hello, dear= list=E2=80=AF!

&nb= sp;

Joseph=E2= =80=AF:

> With L= MTX (MkIV is fine) characterspacing (I use frenchpunctuation) is not

> applie= d sometimes (ie no spacing before colon for example) in some parts of

&nb= sp;

Character-s= pacing for French punctuation marks is incorrect in MkIV anyway=C2=A0: the = =E2=80=9Cthin=E2=80=9D spaces are much too wide. I will write more about it= when I have more time. I have just begun to lean ConTeXt. For the time bei= ng, I don=E2=80=99t use its automatic spacing for French punctuation, but r= eal Unicode spaces such as U+202F (non breakable thin space, about 0.125=C2= =A0em, depending on the font).

&nb= sp;

By the way,= thin spaces are not specific to French typography, historically speaking, = since they seem to have been used everywhere in Europe for centuries =E2=80= =94 at least in England, Belgium, Germany and Italy (probably in the Nether= lands too, I will check). In France and sometimes in England, thin spaces w= ere often used before commas as well. I wonder why most countries stopped u= sing them. Out of laziness=E2=80=AF? :-)

&nb= sp;

Greetings,<= /p>

&nb= sp;

Thomas Sava= ry

1 le Grand-= Plessis

F-85340 L= =E2=80=99=C3=8Ele-d=E2=80=99Olonne

T=C3=A9l. 0= 6 22 82 61 34

https://cor= rectionpro.fr/

https://com= po85.fr/

&nb= sp;

mardi 14 ja= nvier 2020, =C3=A0 22:58:57 CET, Joseph a =C3=A9crit :

> Hello,=

> =C2=A0=

> With L= MTX (MkIV is fine) characterspacing (I use frenchpunctuation) is not

> applie= d sometimes (ie no spacing before colon for example) in some parts of

> the te= xt. Unfortunately so far I cannot provide a MWE so I am wondering if

> there = is a way to trace this to hopefully figure out what the problem is.

> Many t= hanks

> =C2=A0=

> Regard= s

> =C2=A0=

> Joseph=

&nb= sp;

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