typesetting verse?

typesetting verse?

[Derek Schmidt]

Hi,

Another simple question--have at it!

I'd like to typeset some poetry. It should be indented, obey lines,
and the lines should be close together, not like separate paragraphs.
So far I've got

\definestartstop[verse][commands=\obeylines]


What next?

All best,
Derek

Re: typesetting verse?

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Derek Schmidt wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Another simple question--have at it!
>
> I'd like to typeset some poetry. It should be

> indented,

\startnarrower .... \stopnarrower

> obey lines,

\startlines ... \stoplines (it is more customizable than \obeylines)

You can actually say

\setupindenting[medium] \startlines[indenting=yes] (other options are 
no, yes, odd, even) and see which one you like.

> and the lines should be close together, not like separate paragraphs.

\setupinterlinespace[line=2em] .... \endgraf (default is 2.4 em)

> So far I've got
>
> \definestartstop[verse][commands=\obeylines]

So you can try

\def\startverse%
   {\bgroup
    \setupinterlinespace[line=2em]
    \startlines[indenting=yes]}

\def\stopverse%
    {\stoplines
     \endgraf\egroup}


You could have also done the equivalent

\definestartstop[verse][before={\setupinterlinespace[line=2em]\startlines},
                         after={\stoplines\endgraf}]

Aditya

Re: typesetting verse?

[Hans Hagen]

Derek Schmidt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Another simple question--have at it!
>
> I'd like to typeset some poetry. It should be indented, obey lines,
> and the lines should be close together, not like separate paragraphs.
> So far I've got
>
> \definestartstop[verse][commands=\obeylines]
>
>
> What next?
>   
\startlines...\stoplines

has provisions for odd/even indentation and such

also, indentation settings can handle odd/even stuff

Hans

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Re: typesetting verse?

[John R. Culleton]

On Tuesday 22 August 2006 23:39, Derek Schmidt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Another simple question--have at it!
>
> I'd like to typeset some poetry. It should be indented, obey lines,
> and the lines should be close together, not like separate paragraphs.
> So far I've got
>
> \definestartstop[verse][commands=\obeylines]
>
>
> What next?
>
> All best,
> Derek
> _______________________________________________
> ntg-context mailing list
> ntg-context@ntg.nl
> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context

In a book being set in plain pdftex I used the following;

\newcount\numberoflines
\newcount\stanza
\stanza=5


\def\bpoem{%
\\
\begingroup
\everypar={\kern .18\hsize\advance\numberoflines1
\ifodd\numberoflines
        \ifnum\numberoflines=\the\stanza
                \vskip-\baselineskip\medskip\numberoflines=0\relax\fi%
        \else%
        \quad\fi}%
\obeylines}

\def\epoem{\everypar={}\par\endgroup\bigskip}
----------------------------------------------------
For each poem the quantity \stanza would be set first. Stanza is
the number of lines in each stanza plus one. A four lines per
stanza poem gets the value of 5.

Then the poem would be enclosed in \bpoem \epoem statements. 

Most pdftex statements will execute in Context. But if not, then
the above can be used as pseudocode to guide the process. 


The poems themselves would look like e.g:

\bpoem
`` The things of Christ the Spirit takes,
And to our heart reveals,
Our bodies He His temple makes,
And our redemption seals.

Almighty Spirit! Visit thus,
Our hearts, and guide our ways,
Pour down thy quickening grace on us,
And tune our lips to praise.''
\epoem

Most pdftex statements will execute in Context. But if not, then
the above can be used as pseudocode to guide the process. 



-- 
John Culleton
Able Indexing and Typesetting
Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost.
Satisfaction guaranteed. 
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Re: typesetting verse?

[Derek Schmidt]

Ah, this has been very helpful indeed. Thanks all.

On 8/23/06, John R. Culleton <john@wexfordpress.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday 22 August 2006 23:39, Derek Schmidt wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Another simple question--have at it!
> >
> > I'd like to typeset some poetry. It should be indented, obey lines,
> > and the lines should be close together, not like separate paragraphs.
> > So far I've got
> >
> > \definestartstop[verse][commands=\obeylines]
> >
> >
> > What next?
> >
> > All best,
> > Derek
> > _______________________________________________
> > ntg-context mailing list
> > ntg-context@ntg.nl
> > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>
> In a book being set in plain pdftex I used the following;
>
> \newcount\numberoflines
> \newcount\stanza
> \stanza=5
>
>
> \def\bpoem{%
> \\
> \begingroup
> \everypar={\kern .18\hsize\advance\numberoflines1
> \ifodd\numberoflines
>         \ifnum\numberoflines=\the\stanza
>                 \vskip-\baselineskip\medskip\numberoflines=0\relax\fi%
>         \else%
>         \quad\fi}%
> \obeylines}
>
> \def\epoem{\everypar={}\par\endgroup\bigskip}
> ----------------------------------------------------
> For each poem the quantity \stanza would be set first. Stanza is
> the number of lines in each stanza plus one. A four lines per
> stanza poem gets the value of 5.
>
> Then the poem would be enclosed in \bpoem \epoem statements.
>
> Most pdftex statements will execute in Context. But if not, then
> the above can be used as pseudocode to guide the process.
>
>
> The poems themselves would look like e.g:
>
> \bpoem
> `` The things of Christ the Spirit takes,
> And to our heart reveals,
> Our bodies He His temple makes,
> And our redemption seals.
>
> Almighty Spirit! Visit thus,
> Our hearts, and guide our ways,
> Pour down thy quickening grace on us,
> And tune our lips to praise.''
> \epoem
>
> Most pdftex statements will execute in Context. But if not, then
> the above can be used as pseudocode to guide the process.
>
>
>
> --
> John Culleton
> Able Indexing and Typesetting
> Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost.
> Satisfaction guaranteed.
> http://wexfordpress.com
>
>
>
>

Re: typesetting verse?

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Derek Schmidt wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Another simple question--have at it!
>>
>> I'd like to typeset some poetry. It should be indented, obey lines,
>> and the lines should be close together, not like separate paragraphs.
>> So far I've got
>>
>> \definestartstop[verse][commands=\obeylines]
>>
>>
>> What next?
>>
> \startlines...\stoplines
>
> has provisions for odd/even indentation and such
>
> also, indentation settings can handle odd/even stuff

Aparantly not! The following simple example does not give me indenting 
of odd lines (unless I misunderstood the feature)

\setupindenting[medium]
\setuplines[indenting=odd]

\starttext
\startlines
first
second
third
fourth
\stoplines

\stoptext


Aditya

Re: typesetting verse?

[Hans Hagen]

Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>   
>> Derek Schmidt wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Another simple question--have at it!
>>>
>>> I'd like to typeset some poetry. It should be indented, obey lines,
>>> and the lines should be close together, not like separate paragraphs.
>>> So far I've got
>>>
>>> \definestartstop[verse][commands=\obeylines]
>>>
>>>
>>> What next?
>>>
>>>       
>> \startlines...\stoplines
>>
>> has provisions for odd/even indentation and such
>>
>> also, indentation settings can handle odd/even stuff
>>     
>
> Aparantly not! The following simple example does not give me indenting 
> of odd lines (unless I misunderstood the feature)
>
> \setupindenting[medium]
> \setuplines[indenting=odd]
>
> \starttext
> \startlines
> first
> second
> third
> fourth
> \stoplines
>
> \stoptext
>   
\showframe

\starttext

\setupindenting[medium,first]

\setuplines[indenting=no]

\startlines
first
second
third
fourth

first
second
third
fourth
\stoplines

\setuplines[indenting=yes]

\startlines
first
second
third
fourth

first
second
third
fourth
\stoplines

\setuplines[indenting=odd]

\startlines
first
second
third
fourth

first
second
third
fourth
\stoplines

\setuplines[indenting=even]

\startlines
first
second
third
fourth

first
second
third
fourth
\stoplines

\page

\setupindenting[no]

first \par second \par third \par fourth \blank first \par second \par third \par fourth \blank

\setupindenting[yes]

first \par second \par third \par fourth \blank first \par second \par third \par fourth \blank

\setupindenting[odd]

first \par second \par third \par fourth \blank first \par second \par third \par fourth \blank

\setupindenting[even]

first \par second \par third \par fourth \blank first \par second \par third \par fourth \blank

\setupindenting[next]

first \par second \par third \par fourth \blank first \par second \par third \par fourth \blank

\setupindenting[first]

first \par second \par third \par fourth \blank first \par second \par third \par fourth \blank

\stoptext

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Re: typesetting verse?

[Derek Schmidt]

Aditya,

With the first group of code, I get "indenting=yes" actually appearing
in there; yet the lines aren't indented or closer together
(vertically). I removed the '%' but that didn't seem to make a
difference.

On 8/23/06, Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Derek Schmidt wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Another simple question--have at it!
> >
> > I'd like to typeset some poetry. It should be
>
> > indented,
>
> \startnarrower .... \stopnarrower
>
> > obey lines,
>
> \startlines ... \stoplines (it is more customizable than \obeylines)
>
> You can actually say
>
> \setupindenting[medium] \startlines[indenting=yes] (other options are
> no, yes, odd, even) and see which one you like.
>
> > and the lines should be close together, not like separate paragraphs.
>
> \setupinterlinespace[line=2em] .... \endgraf (default is 2.4 em)
>
> > So far I've got
> >
> > \definestartstop[verse][commands=\obeylines]
>
> So you can try
>
> \def\startverse%
>    {\bgroup
>     \setupinterlinespace[line=2em]
>     \startlines[indenting=yes]}
>
> \def\stopverse%
>     {\stoplines
>      \endgraf\egroup}
>
>
> You could have also done the equivalent
>
> \definestartstop[verse][before={\setupinterlinespace[line=2em]\startlines},
>                          after={\stoplines\endgraf}]
>
> Aditya
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>

Re: typesetting verse?

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, Derek Schmidt wrote:

> Aditya,
>
> With the first group of code, I get "indenting=yes" actually appearing
> in there; yet the lines aren't indented or closer together
> (vertically). I removed the '%' but that didn't seem to make a
> difference.

Sorry, that should have been \setuplines[indenting=yes]. Have a look 
at the code posted by Hans sometime back.

Aditya

> On 8/23/06, Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Derek Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Another simple question--have at it!
>>>
>>> I'd like to typeset some poetry. It should be
>>
>>> indented,
>>
>> \startnarrower .... \stopnarrower
>>
>>> obey lines,
>>
>> \startlines ... \stoplines (it is more customizable than \obeylines)
>>
>> You can actually say
>>
>> \setupindenting[medium] \startlines[indenting=yes] (other options are
>> no, yes, odd, even) and see which one you like.
>>
>>> and the lines should be close together, not like separate paragraphs.
>>
>> \setupinterlinespace[line=2em] .... \endgraf (default is 2.4 em)
>>
>>> So far I've got
>>>
>>> \definestartstop[verse][commands=\obeylines]
>>
>> So you can try
>>
>> \def\startverse%
>>    {\bgroup
>>     \setupinterlinespace[line=2em]
>>     \startlines[indenting=yes]}
>>
>> \def\stopverse%
>>     {\stoplines
>>      \endgraf\egroup}
>>
>>
>> You could have also done the equivalent
>>
>> \definestartstop[verse][before={\setupinterlinespace[line=2em]\startlines},
>>                          after={\stoplines\endgraf}]
>>
>> Aditya
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>>
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>
>

-- 
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http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~adityam || Ph: 7342624008

Re: typesetting verse?

[Derek Schmidt]

Ok guys, thanks. I eventually went with this:

\setupindenting[medium,first]

\def\startverse%
	{\bgroup
	\setupinterlinespace[medium]
   	\setuplines[indenting=yes]
	\startlines}


\def\stopverse%
   {\stoplines
    \endgraf\egroup}

On 8/23/06, Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Aug 2006, Derek Schmidt wrote:
>
> > Aditya,
> >
> > With the first group of code, I get "indenting=yes" actually appearing
> > in there; yet the lines aren't indented or closer together
> > (vertically). I removed the '%' but that didn't seem to make a
> > difference.
>
> Sorry, that should have been \setuplines[indenting=yes]. Have a look
> at the code posted by Hans sometime back.
>
> Aditya
>
> > On 8/23/06, Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Derek Schmidt wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Another simple question--have at it!
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to typeset some poetry. It should be
> >>
> >>> indented,
> >>
> >> \startnarrower .... \stopnarrower
> >>
> >>> obey lines,
> >>
> >> \startlines ... \stoplines (it is more customizable than \obeylines)
> >>
> >> You can actually say
> >>
> >> \setupindenting[medium] \startlines[indenting=yes] (other options are
> >> no, yes, odd, even) and see which one you like.
> >>
> >>> and the lines should be close together, not like separate paragraphs.
> >>
> >> \setupinterlinespace[line=2em] .... \endgraf (default is 2.4 em)
> >>
> >>> So far I've got
> >>>
> >>> \definestartstop[verse][commands=\obeylines]
> >>
> >> So you can try
> >>
> >> \def\startverse%
> >>    {\bgroup
> >>     \setupinterlinespace[line=2em]
> >>     \startlines[indenting=yes]}
> >>
> >> \def\stopverse%
> >>     {\stoplines
> >>      \endgraf\egroup}
> >>
> >>
> >> You could have also done the equivalent
> >>
> >> \definestartstop[verse][before={\setupinterlinespace[line=2em]\startlines},
> >>                          after={\stoplines\endgraf}]
> >>
> >> Aditya
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> ntg-context mailing list
> >> ntg-context@ntg.nl
> >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > ntg-context mailing list
> > ntg-context@ntg.nl
> > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Aditya Mahajan, EECS Systems, University of Michigan
> http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~adityam || Ph: 7342624008
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