bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

[George N. White III]

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Consider the trivial test file:

  -------------------------------------
% example from: <http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography>
% Format using:
%   $ texexec --once t-cont
%   $ bibtex t-cont
%   $ texexec t-cont
\usemodule[bib]
\usemodule[bibltx]
\setupbibtex[database=xampl]
\starttext
As \cite[article-full] already indicated, bibtex is a \LaTeX-centric
program.
\completepublications
\stoptext
   -------------------------------------

Following instructions:
   -------------------------------------
> texexec --once bibdemo
TeXExec | processing document 'bibdemo'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | writing option file bibdemo.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 595
TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592-1.40.7 (MiKTeX 2.7)
entering extended mode
(bibdemo.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2008.01.28 21:28 MKII  fmt: 2008.2.18  int: english/english
[....]

Output written on bibdemo.pdf (2 pages, 42919 bytes).
Transcript written on bibdemo.log.

pdftex: Virtual memory exhausted while trying to reserve 8 bytes for table
???.
TeXExec | runtime: 2.828
  -------------------------------------------

I don't see this on my linux machines with older versions of ConTeXt and
pdftex.
Simple LaTeX documents and ConTeXt documents that don't use the bib module
don't give the error, so it looks like the bib module reveals a bug in
pdftex-1.40.n,
for some n larger than 3.


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Re: bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

[Hans Hagen]

George N. White III wrote:
> Consider the trivial test file:
> 
>   -------------------------------------
> % example from: <http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography>
> % Format using:
> %   $ texexec --once t-cont
> %   $ bibtex t-cont
> %   $ texexec t-cont
> \usemodule[bib]
> \usemodule[bibltx]
> \setupbibtex[database=xampl]
> \starttext
> As \cite[article-full] already indicated, bibtex is a \LaTeX-centric
> program.
> \completepublications
> \stoptext

> This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592-1.40.7 (MiKTeX 2.7)

here i run

	This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592-1.40.5 (Web2C 7.5.6)

and that one does not crash; then i upated to

	This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592-1.50.0-alpha-20080214 (Web2C 7.5.6)


which also runs ok. maybe it's a miktex issue?

Hans





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Re: bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Feb 19, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> here i run
>
> 	This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592-1.40.5 (Web2C 7.5.6)
>
> and that one does not crash; then i upated to
>
> 	This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592-1.50.0-alpha-20080214 (Web2C 7.5.6)
>
>
> which also runs ok. maybe it's a miktex issue?
>
> Hans
>

Just the other day, I encountered a mysterious error which may or may  
not be related. I upgraded to pdftex 1.40.7 on all my boxes. This was  
smooth on my intel-macs (OS X 10.5.2). On my powerpc-mac, I got a "TeX  
capacity exceeded!" error with 1.40.7 for a file that compiled fine  
with 1.40.5. I tried several times: all I did was dropping the pdftex  
binary and pdftex.pool in place, rebuilding th format and compiling  
the file. Compilation was smooth with 1.40.5 and consistently failed  
with 1.40.7 (which I compiled and recompiled without any special  
flags). I haven't pursued the matter for the moment and just went back  
to 1.40.5, but I'm wondering if these problems are related.

Thomas
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Re: bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

[luigi scarso]

> Just the other day, I encountered a mysterious error which may or may
> not be related. I upgraded to pdftex 1.40.7 on all my boxes. This was
> smooth on my intel-macs (OS X 10.5.2). On my powerpc-mac, I got a "TeX
> capacity exceeded!" error with 1.40.7 for a file that compiled fine
> with 1.40.5. I tried several times: all I did was dropping the pdftex
> binary and pdftex.pool in place, rebuilding th format and compiling
> the file. Compilation was smooth with 1.40.5 and consistently failed
> with 1.40.7 (which I compiled and recompiled without any special
> flags). I haven't pursued the matter for the moment and just went back
> to 1.40.5, but I'm wondering if these problems are related.
Do you have a test file ?


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Re: bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Feb 20, 2008, at 10:05 AM, luigi scarso wrote:

>> Just the other day, I encountered a mysterious error which may or may
>> not be related. I upgraded to pdftex 1.40.7 on all my boxes. This was
>> smooth on my intel-macs (OS X 10.5.2). On my powerpc-mac, I got a  
>> "TeX
>> capacity exceeded!" error with 1.40.7 for a file that compiled fine
>> with 1.40.5. I tried several times: all I did was dropping the pdftex
>> binary and pdftex.pool in place, rebuilding th format and compiling
>> the file. Compilation was smooth with 1.40.5 and consistently failed
>> with 1.40.7 (which I compiled and recompiled without any special
>> flags). I haven't pursued the matter for the moment and just went  
>> back
>> to 1.40.5, but I'm wondering if these problems are related.
> Do you have a test file ?
>

Sorry, it took me a while because this is the computer in my office,  
from which I;ve been away for a while. I think I nailed it down: if I  
try to include a pdf image into a ConTeXt document


\starttext
  \externalfigure[Logo][width=56mm,height=20mm]
\stoptext

(with any pdf file) I get this error:

<./Logo.pdf
! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [PDF object stream buffer=5].
\dogetTPDfiguresize ...geBox {\@@DriverImageFile }
                                                   \xdef  
\PDFimagereference {...

\doanalyzefiguredimensionsinternal ...tfiguresize
                                                    
\setanalyzedfiguredimensio...
<argument> ...}\doanalyzefiguredimensionsinternal
                                                    
\doanalyzefiguredimensions...

\firstoftwoarguments #1#2->#1

\dododoanalyzeunknownfiguretype ...guredimensions
                                                   \fi
\next2 ...dododoanalyzeunknownfiguretype {pdf}{#1}
                                                   \doprocesscommaitem
...
l.4

!  ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!

The pdf file is OK; this error only occurs with pdftex 1.40.7 on  
powerpc (OS X, 10.5.2). The same file compiles fine with

luatex on powerpc and intel
pdftex 1.40.5 on powerpc and intel
pdftex 1.40.7 on OS X intel

All best

Thomas

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Re: bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

[Hans Hagen]

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

> ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [PDF object stream buffer=5].

that looks quite small to me

Hans

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Re: bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Feb 27, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> that looks quite small to me
>
> Hans

Question is: where does this value come from? Since it only occurs in  
1.40.7, it must be some default value set during compilation of  
pdftex, I assume?

Thomas
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Re: bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

[Taco Hoekwater]

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On Feb 27, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
>> that looks quite small to me
>>
>> Hans
> 
> Question is: where does this value come from? Since it only occurs in  
> 1.40.7, it must be some default value set during compilation of  
> pdftex, I assume?

Probably pdftex's intention is more like 300.000, but there is an
alignment shift because of byte order differences. (300000>>16 == 5).
I suspect there will be a 1.40.8

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

[Hans Hagen]

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On Feb 27, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
>> that looks quite small to me
>>
>> Hans
> 
> Question is: where does this value come from? Since it only occurs in  
> 1.40.7, it must be some default value set during compilation of  
> pdftex, I assume?

it used to be a configurable setting, but now pdf mem is fully dynamic

anyhow, it's just a bug and there's nothing you can do about it -)

Hans

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Re: bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

[Martin Schröder]

2008/2/27, Thomas A. Schmitz <thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de>:
>  The pdf file is OK; this error only occurs with pdftex 1.40.7 on
>  powerpc (OS X, 10.5.2). The same file compiles fine with

How did you get the pdftex binary? Did you fiddle with --disable-largefile?

Best
   Martin
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Re: bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Feb 27, 2008, at 1:05 PM, Martin Schröder wrote:

> How did you get the pdftex binary? Did you fiddle with --disable- 
> largefile?
>
> Best
>   Martin

I simply ran the build.sh script.

Thomas
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Re: bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

[Taco Hoekwater]

George N. White III wrote:
> 
> Output written on bibdemo.pdf (2 pages, 42919 bytes).
> Transcript written on bibdemo.log.
> 
> pdftex: Virtual memory exhausted while trying to reserve 8 bytes for table
> ???.

It seems the error happens at the moment (or just before) pdftex is
exited, which is an odd moment for an 'out of memory' type of problem.
It looks to me like the error message comes from the operating system
itself (it certainly does not look like a normal pdftex error, and I
had not heard of it until now).

It could be a problem that exists only in the miktex 2.7 version of 
pdftex, but there could also be an underlying problem in pdftex
that for some reason only surfaces in miktex, has to say for sure.
In any case, I cannot reproduce this on linux, and as far as I know
none of the core pdftex developers use miktex, so you may have to
ask on the miktex mailinglist instead.

Best wishes,
Taco

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Re: bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Feb 19, 2008 10:53 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> George N. White III wrote:
> >
> > Output written on bibdemo.pdf (2 pages, 42919 bytes).
> > Transcript written on bibdemo.log.
> >
> > pdftex: Virtual memory exhausted while trying to reserve 8 bytes for table
> > ???.
>
> It seems the error happens at the moment (or just before) pdftex is
> exited, which is an odd moment for an 'out of memory' type of problem.
> It looks to me like the error message comes from the operating system
> itself (it certainly does not look like a normal pdftex error, and I
> had not heard of it until now).
>
> It could be a problem that exists only in the miktex 2.7 version of
> pdftex, but there could also be an underlying problem in pdftex
> that for some reason only surfaces in miktex, has to say for sure.
> In any case, I cannot reproduce this on linux, and as far as I know
> none of the core pdftex developers use miktex, so you may have to
> ask on the miktex mailinglist instead.

Rather MikTeX developer directly or enter it to the bug tracker -
MikTeX mailing list is nearly "dead" in comparison to this one.

Mojca
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Re: bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

[luigi scarso]

On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 8:01 PM, George N. White III <gnwiii@gmail.com> wrote:
> Consider the trivial test file:
>
>   -------------------------------------
> % example from: <http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography>
> % Format using:
>  %   $ texexec --once t-cont
> %   $ bibtex t-cont
> %   $ texexec t-cont
> \usemodule[bib]
> \usemodule[bibltx]
> \setupbibtex[database=xampl]
> \starttext
> As \cite[article-full] already indicated, bibtex is a \LaTeX-centric
> program.
>  \completepublications
> \stoptext
>    -------------------------------------
>
> Following instructions:
>    -------------------------------------
> > texexec --once bibdemo
> TeXExec | processing document 'bibdemo'
>  TeXExec | no ctx file found
> TeXExec | tex processing method: context
> TeXExec | writing option file bibdemo.top
> TeXExec | using randomseed 595
> TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
> TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
> This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592-1.40.7 (MiKTeX 2.7)
>  entering extended mode
> (bibdemo.tex
>
> ConTeXt  ver: 2008.01.28 21:28 MKII  fmt: 2008.2.18  int: english/english
> [....]
>
> Output written on bibdemo.pdf (2 pages, 42919 bytes).
> Transcript written on bibdemo.log.
>
> pdftex: Virtual memory exhausted while trying to reserve 8 bytes for table
> ???.
> TeXExec | runtime: 2.828
>   -------------------------------------------
>
> I don't see this on my linux machines with older versions of ConTeXt and
> pdftex.
>  Simple LaTeX documents and ConTeXt documents that don't use the bib module
> don't give the error, so it looks like the bib module reveals a bug in
> pdftex-1.40.n,
> for some n larger than 3.
No problems here in a linux box with

ConTeXt  ver: 2007.04.17
pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.7


ConTeXt  ver: 2008.01.28 21:28 MKII  fmt: 2008.2.20  int: english/english
pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.7


ConTeXt  ver: 2008.01.28 21:28 MKIV  fmt: 2008.2.20  int: english/english
This is LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.22.0-2008021609
This is build 915, created on 20071128T092554Z
Compiled with libpng 1.2.15; using libpng 1.2.15
Compiled with zlib 1.2.3; using zlib 1.2.3
Compiled with xpdf version 3.01




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Re: bib module and pdftex 1.40.7: Virtual memory exhausted using MiKTeX-2.7

[Christian Schenk]

George N. White III wrote:
> Consider the trivial test file:
> 
>   -------------------------------------
> % example from: <http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Bibliography>
> % Format using:
> %   $ texexec --once t-cont
> %   $ bibtex t-cont
> %   $ texexec t-cont
> \usemodule[bib]
> \usemodule[bibltx]
> \setupbibtex[database=xampl]
> \starttext
> As \cite[article-full] already indicated, bibtex is a \LaTeX-centric 
> program.
> \completepublications
> \stoptext
>    -------------------------------------
> 
> Following instructions:
>    -------------------------------------
>  > texexec --once bibdemo
> TeXExec | processing document 'bibdemo'
> TeXExec | no ctx file found
> TeXExec | tex processing method: context
> TeXExec | writing option file bibdemo.top
> TeXExec | using randomseed 595
> TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
> TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
> This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592-1.40.7 (MiKTeX 2.7)
> entering extended mode
> (bibdemo.tex
> 
> ConTeXt  ver: 2008.01.28 21:28 MKII  fmt: 2008.2.18  int: english/english
> [....]
> 
> Output written on bibdemo.pdf (2 pages, 42919 bytes).
> Transcript written on bibdemo.log.
> 
> pdftex: Virtual memory exhausted while trying to reserve 8 bytes for 
> table ???.


MiKTeX talks wild here. The correct message should be:
"The heap is corrupted." The problem shows up when the fontinfo array is 
freed (at the end of the pdfTeX run). IIRC, Web2C never frees any 
tables, i.e., you will never see this problem in TeX live.

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