* ConTeXt on MikTeX broken
@ 2008-05-03 10:00 Mojca Miklavec
2008-05-06 14:29 ` George N. White III
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2008-05-03 10:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Hello,
some time ago some MikTeX users have complained that ConTeXt doesn't
work on MikTeX. It seems to be a problem with MikTeX itself since this
workaround seems to solve the problem, at least temporary:
ruby "C:\Program Files\MiKTeX
2.7\scripts\context\ruby\texmfstart.rb" texexec
(But apparently there are not many MikTeX users on the list anyway.
Else more would have complained.)
Mojca
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread* Re: ConTeXt on MikTeX broken 2008-05-03 10:00 ConTeXt on MikTeX broken Mojca Miklavec @ 2008-05-06 14:29 ` George N. White III 2008-05-06 14:57 ` Mojca Miklavec 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: George N. White III @ 2008-05-06 14:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote: > some time ago some MikTeX users have complained that ConTeXt doesn't > work on MikTeX. It seems to be a problem with MikTeX itself since this > workaround seems to solve the problem, at least temporary: > ruby "C:\Program Files\MiKTeX > 2.7\scripts\context\ruby\texmfstart.rb" texexec I'm not so quick to blame MiKTeX -- I suspect texmfstart.rb would need to provide some path searching tailored to MiKTeX. It seems to rely on $0 with a tetex/texlive directory structure where SELFAUTOPARENT can be used. The only criticism of MiKTeX is that it is silly to distribute a broken package, but then it is up to ConTeXt users to report breakage and, ideally, supply fixes. > (But apparently there are not many MikTeX users on the list anyway. > Else more would have complained.) Don't complain, just switch to a platform/distro where ConTeXt works and use mpm (since few others provide updates with the speed and convenience of MiKTeX). I think MiKTeX should remain focusing on the packages and binaries, and rely on upstream to fix broken packages. -- George N. White III <aa056@chebucto.ns.ca> Head of St. Margarets Bay, Nova Scotia ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt on MikTeX broken 2008-05-06 14:29 ` George N. White III @ 2008-05-06 14:57 ` Mojca Miklavec 2008-05-06 16:39 ` George N. White III 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2008-05-06 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 4:29 PM, George N. White III wrote: > On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Mojca Miklavec > <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote: > > > some time ago some MikTeX users have complained that ConTeXt doesn't > > work on MikTeX. It seems to be a problem with MikTeX itself since this > > workaround seems to solve the problem, at least temporary: > > ruby "C:\Program Files\MiKTeX > > 2.7\scripts\context\ruby\texmfstart.rb" texexec > > I'm not so quick to blame MiKTeX -- I suspect texmfstart.rb would need > to provide some path searching tailored to MiKTeX. It seems to rely > on $0 with a tetex/texlive directory structure where SELFAUTOPARENT > can be used. Christian has indeed replied that he uses the binary version of texmfstart from CTAN (which is a bit older that the one on PRAGMA). But I still don't understand what can go wrong "in the middle of nothing", without any major changes. So there is either a problem in MikTeX or in ConTeXt. > The only criticism of MiKTeX is that it is silly to distribute > a broken package, but then it is up to ConTeXt users to report breakage > and, ideally, supply fixes. I completely agree. Except that I have no MikTeX any more. And I don't have the slightest idea what could have caused the problem. I don't see any serious changes in the texmfstart code that could break the 3-week-old version, while it has worked OK before. Mea culpa. I should have forced Hans to fix it during BachoTeX ... :) I will try to misuse some windows computer next week to see if I can find any bugs (but it's difficult to test since one cannot simply modify the ruby script as on other platforms). > > (But apparently there are not many MikTeX users on the list anyway. > > Else more would have complained.) > > Don't complain, just switch to a platform/distro where ConTeXt works > and use mpm (since few others provide updates with the speed and > convenience of MiKTeX). > > I think MiKTeX should remain focusing on the packages and binaries, > and rely on upstream to fix broken packages. I agree. But I have thought that some change in MikTeX might have occurred in the meantime. Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt on MikTeX broken 2008-05-06 14:57 ` Mojca Miklavec @ 2008-05-06 16:39 ` George N. White III 0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: George N. White III @ 2008-05-06 16:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 4:29 PM, George N. White III wrote: > > On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Mojca Miklavec > > <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > some time ago some MikTeX users have complained that ConTeXt doesn't > > > work on MikTeX. It seems to be a problem with MikTeX itself since this > > > workaround seems to solve the problem, at least temporary: > > > ruby "C:\Program Files\MiKTeX > > > 2.7\scripts\context\ruby\texmfstart.rb" texexec > > > > I'm not so quick to blame MiKTeX -- I suspect texmfstart.rb would need > > to provide some path searching tailored to MiKTeX. It seems to rely > > on $0 with a tetex/texlive directory structure where SELFAUTOPARENT > > can be used. > > Christian has indeed replied that he uses the binary version of > texmfstart from CTAN (which is a bit older that the one on PRAGMA). > But I still don't understand what can go wrong "in the middle of > nothing", without any major changes. So there is either a problem in > MikTeX or in ConTeXt. > > > > The only criticism of MiKTeX is that it is silly to distribute > > a broken package, but then it is up to ConTeXt users to report breakage > > and, ideally, supply fixes. > > I completely agree. Except that I have no MikTeX any more. And I don't > have the slightest idea what could have caused the problem. I don't > see any serious changes in the texmfstart code that could break the > 3-week-old version, while it has worked OK before. > > Mea culpa. I should have forced Hans to fix it during BachoTeX ... :) > I will try to misuse some windows computer next week to see if I can > find any bugs (but it's difficult to test since one cannot simply > modify the ruby script as on other platforms). You can replace texmfstart.exe with a .cmd script:: C:> type texmfstart.cmd @ruby c:/PROGRA~1/MIKTEX~1.7/scripts/context/ruby/texmfstart.rb %* C:> ruby c:/PROGRA~1/MIKTEX~1.7/scripts/context/ruby/texmfstart.rb texexec.rb cont-sample2e TeXExec | processing document 'cont-sample2e' TeXExec | no ctx file found TeXExec | tex processing method: context TeXExec | TeX run 1 TeXExec | writing option file cont-sample2e.top TeXExec | using randomseed 780 TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex TeXExec | tex format: cont-en This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.8-alpha-20080323 (MiKTeX 2.7) entering extended mode (cont-sample2e.tex ConTeXt ver: 2008.01.28 21:28 MKII fmt: 2008.2.18 int: english/english language : language en is active system : cont-new loaded ("C:\Program Files\MiKTeX 2.7\tex\context\base\cont-new.tex" FatalError : Your format does not match the base files! FormatVersion : 2008.01.28 21:28 MKII FilesVersion : 2008.04.18 14:17 TeXUtil | parsing file cont-sample2e.tui TeXUtil | shortcuts : 297 TeXUtil | expansions: 308 TeXUtil | reductions: 0 TeXUtil | divisions : 0 TeXUtil | loaded files: 1 TeXUtil | temporary files: 0 TeXUtil | commands: 30 TeXUtil | programs: 0 TeXUtil | tuo file saved TeXExec | runtime: 0.641 c:> texmfstart texexec.rb --make TeXExec | using search method 'kpsewhich' TeXExec | updating file database . ....... ....................... .......... ......... [...] TeXExec | generating mps format metafun mpost: Invalid command-line option [The command line can be captured by renaming mpost.exe to mpostbin.exe and making a script: >type mpost.cmd mpostbin %* This shows: >mpostbin -alias=metafun -initialize -tcx=natural.tcx --8bit metafun [...] With this, I can format simple documents. The mpost problem seems to be with the "--8bit" option, which comes from tex.rb. > > > (But apparently there are not many MikTeX users on the list anyway. > > > Else more would have complained.) > > > > Don't complain, just switch to a platform/distro where ConTeXt works > > and use mpm (since few others provide updates with the speed and > > convenience of MiKTeX). > > > > I think MiKTeX should remain focusing on the packages and binaries, > > and rely on upstream to fix broken packages. > > I agree. But I have thought that some change in MikTeX might have > occurred in the meantime. The problem with mpost suggests some tweaks are still needed to handle differences between linux and miktex command lines. -- George N. 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