From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/42005 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "George N. White III" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: distro info Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:21:27 -0300 Message-ID: <22af238a0806300921l56d53a35i4ed6a6d45eeda8be@mail.gmail.com> References: <4F0FF6A1-CBA4-455D-80A5-785E59607044@di.unito.it> <181B45FF-223C-4CBB-8909-F4C9BB2E0C5B@fiee.net> <653FF68A-0886-4ECA-A87C-36D95138437A@uni-bonn.de> <6faad9f00806141159p59426d2el8095f02c07479d54@mail.gmail.com> <6faad9f00806300120y790b137fy27a4e5b0810009f4@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214842979 28752 80.91.229.12 (30 Jun 2008 16:22:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:22:59 +0000 (UTC) To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Jun 30 18:23:44 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KDMAI-0002jO-B6 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:23:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CB81FD4A; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:22:49 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11358-01-10; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:22:04 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 544891FC90; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:22:04 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5221FC90 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:22:02 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08402-06-14 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:21:29 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com (yx-out-1718.google.com [74.125.44.152]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC091FADC for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:21:28 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 34so345542yxf.74 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:21:28 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.150.229.16 with SMTP id b16mr8716182ybh.90.1214842887879; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.150.97.14 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:21:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6faad9f00806300120y790b137fy27a4e5b0810009f4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:42005 Archived-At: On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 5:20 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:27 AM, Jesse Alama wrote: >> "Mojca Miklavec" writes: >> >>> On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Jesse Alama wrote: >>>> "Thomas A. Schmitz" writes: >>>> >>>> The basis for my own comments in this thread do not lie in a preference >>>> for graphical tools, but rather for a straightforward way to stay >>>> up-to-date with the whole of ConTeXt in a way that ctxtools does not >>>> currently provide. A command-line interface for that would be great, >>>> and so would a graphical tool. >>> >>> That's not a general solution, but if you need it for yourself, you >>> can put the following to some file and execute it whenever you want: >>> >>> rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/context/beta/ >>> /path/to/your/texmf/ >>> rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/bin/luatex/linux/bin/ >>> /path/to/your/binaries/ >>> etc. >>> >>> There's a limited set of folders that you need to update, and it will >>> only update new files, you don't need to update everything. >> >> Two questions: >> >> 1. What's the difference between getting the texmf tree using rsync, > > It only downloads newer files & you can fetch binaries > >> as >> you suggest, and using ctxtools --updatecontext? Are those equivalent? > > It downleady the whole zip every time you call it. > >> 2. It looks like the subdirectories that I want are >> >> common >> context >> luatex >> man >> metapost >> >> if I want to follow only luatex development. (The only subdirectories >> that aren't in that list are mswin, which doesn't apply to me, and >> pdftex and xetex.) I'd like to just put this on top of my TeXLive >> (2007) distribution. What I did to enable current context with my TL is: 1. create a seaprate texmf-ctx tree that is populated from the .zip archive 2. create a parallel bin/i386-linux-l directory and put it before /usr/local/texlive/2007/bin/i386-linux in the path. Note that this should have symbolic links to the scripts in the texmf-ctx tree to ensure that the current scripts are used. 3. copy the updated binaries to the bin/i386-linux-l directory > What about trying to install TeX Live 2008? It desperately needs > testers at the moment, and all that you will need to do to stay up to > date is fetching: > - luatex > - context itself > - maybe luatool & mtxrun > >> Once I copy thse binaries to my TeXLive binary >> directory, what's the next step? Do I need to rebuild the ConTeXt >> format, for example? > > Yes. It is important to catch as many problems in TL2008 as we can now, and it is intended to have a current ConTeXt. When you use free tools there is some moral duty to help make them good, not only for your own benefit, for for others. Fresh eyes often spot problems that experienced users overlook. -- George N. 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