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On 2022-05-06 17:44, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> [...]
> A bit like this:
>
> - Convert the whole bibliography database to html using pandoc in the 
> preferred cs rendering. That should be fast.
>
> - Use the normal context commands for referencing a citation (the cite 
> part is normally easy as there is not much variation in that; if 
> needed one can cheat and also pregenerate that). That's then just some 
> relatively small plugin mode.
>
> - When placing the bibliography, filter the right entries from that 
> html file (easy) using info that got stored in the tuc.
>
> It is also fast. The only depdency then is pandoc but that is widely 
> available (irr). But I would need to see an example of that kind of 
> out first. We basically treat the (formatted) bibliography as an 
> external resource but in some format that we can easily parse (and if 
> needed tweak).
>
> Hans
>
This is similar to my strategy today. I create a pandoc markdown file 
from my ConTeXt source using a simple script and generate ConTeXt output 
containing just the bibliography using pandoc. This output needs some 
minor tweaks, again scripted, to do things like replace the space in 
/Vol. 999/ with a non-breaking space to keep the following number on the 
same line and to convert /\em/ and such to taggable macros that I define 
in my environment. The result is ConText source that can be further 
edited (if necessary) and inserted where needed/./ I have not extended 
it to multiple bibliographies in  a single document, although that 
should not be difficult.

Another possibility would be for ConTeXt, under control of a flag or 
setting, to generate an editable bibliography file that could be 
included under control of a second flag or setting.

-- 
Rik

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2022-05-06 17:44, Hans Hagen via
      ntg-context wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:ff135397-2edb-fa2a-2f93-ab5bcbaeab6f@xs4all.nl">[...]<br>
    </blockquote>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:ff135397-2edb-fa2a-2f93-ab5bcbaeab6f@xs4all.nl">A bit
      like this:
      <br>
      <br>
      - Convert the whole bibliography database to html using pandoc in
      the preferred cs rendering. That should be fast.
      <br>
      <br>
      - Use the normal context commands for referencing a citation (the
      cite part is normally easy as there is not much variation in that;
      if needed one can cheat and also pregenerate that). That's then
      just some relatively small plugin mode.
      <br>
      <br>
      - When placing the bibliography, filter the right entries from
      that html file (easy) using info that got stored in the tuc.
      <br>
      <br>
      It is also fast. The only depdency then is pandoc but that is
      widely available (irr). But I would need to see an example of that
      kind of out first. We basically treat the (formatted) bibliography
      as an external resource but in some format that we can easily
      parse (and if needed tweak).
      <br>
      <br>
      Hans
      <br>
      <br>
    </blockquote>
    <p>This is similar to my strategy today. I create a pandoc markdown
      file from my ConTeXt source using a simple script and generate
      ConTeXt output containing just the bibliography using pandoc. This
      output needs some minor tweaks, again scripted, to do things like
      replace the space in <i>Vol. 999</i> with a non-breaking space to
      keep the following number on the same line and to convert <i>\em</i>
      and such to taggable macros that I define in my environment. The
      result is ConText source that can be further edited (if necessary)
      and inserted where needed<i>.</i> I have not extended it to
      multiple bibliographies in  a single document, although that
      should not be difficult.</p>
    <p>Another possibility would be for ConTeXt, under control of a flag
      or setting, to generate an editable bibliography file that could
      be included under control of a second flag or setting.</p>
    <p>-- <br>
      Rik<br>
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