From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/72537 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hagmann_J=F6rg?= Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: ConTeXt group Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:39:50 +0100 Message-ID: <24305FD5-EA74-4315-AC08-9C2BE3BB9E3E@unibas.ch> References: <7389FAA6-5FA8-4C4D-8C46-0A0F58BEF735@unibas.ch> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1321630824 20822 80.91.229.12 (18 Nov 2011 15:40:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:40:24 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Nov 18 16:40:19 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RRQY3-0006Nb-Cx for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:40:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E262CB0E9; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:40:14 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 6DwsvSD+tMAl; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:40:08 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C627CB0E3; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:40:08 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83B3CB0E3 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:40:06 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ZX+hdyX43Ru4 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:39:52 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter5-til.mf.surf.net (filter5-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.221]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C371CB0E0 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:39:52 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from smtp1.unibas.ch (smtp1.unibas.ch [131.152.227.80]) by filter5-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id pAIFdpWZ008306 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:39:51 +0100 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,533,1315173600"; d="scan'208";a="169395063" Original-Received: from unknown (HELO [131.152.79.98]) ([131.152.79.98]) by smtp1priv.unibas.ch with ESMTP; 18 Nov 2011 16:39:51 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=131.152.227.80; country=CH; region=04; city=Basel; latitude=47.5667; longitude=7.6000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=47.5667,7.6000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0xFWDDPsm - e60494a67811 - 20111118 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.221 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:72537 Archived-At: Hi Mojca, Thanks for the explanation -- I wanted to make sure there is not too much o= f an overlap between NTG and the group. J=F6rg On Nov 18, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 14:44, Hagmann J=F6rg wrote: >> I wasn't aware of this: http://group.contextgarden.net/ (the "ConTeXt = group"). >> = >> Could somebody tell me, in more detail than on the above site, the purpo= se of it and in particular its relationship to NTG (which itself is already= ConTeXt dominated)? > = > Dear Hagmann, > = > Thank you very much for the question. > = > We decided to create a new user group during the meeting in Brejlov in > 2010. Main reason was that even though NTG is the group of choice for > supporting ConTeXt development, it is not really clear to many users > why they should join a Dutch user group. And it is not always > justified to use NTG's money for ConTeXt only since there are also > many other LaTeX users in the group, other interests etc. > = > The group has been founded slightly more than a year ago, but only > started operating more seriously during the last ConTeXt Meeting in > Belgium. We have 28 members now, but sadly still no bank account. We > hope to settle that withing the next two weeks, even though we are > still not sure which bank to choose/in what country. The main > complication is that group is founded in France, president is Dutch, > treasurer is German ... It is trivial if group is established in the > same country where the bank account is opened and if both president > and treasurer are present when the account is opened. We didn't want > to promote the group too publicly too much yet since everyone's first > question would be how to pay for the membership. > = > Why the user group? > = > * TeX user groups often fund projects like development of Latin > Modern, TeX Gyre, MetaPost, LuaTeX, ... ConTeXt group would join other > groups in helping TeX develop further. > = > * Costs of domain name, server, ... > = > * When organizing ConTeXt meetings, one might have to pay for the > hotel and different other costs in advance (before conference fees are > collected). The user group could help paying those costs. On the other > hand some conference sites are more expensive than others. In case of > an expensive conference, ConTeXt Group can help cover part of the > costs. People who come to conferences are usually the most active > developers and conferences are the most perfect way to brainstorm and > get things done. On the other hand, if some money is left from the > conference, the group can use it next year or for other reasons. One > can also help individual developers to join the conference when they > cannot afford to. > = > * The group could apply for different fundings, search sponsors etc. > = > * We want to publish conference proceedings. The first issue is being > worked on and will hopefully be published very soon in 2012 (the plan > was to release it before Christmas, but beginning of 2012 is more > realistic). > = > In short: the group will help organizing meeting, pay for > server-related costs, promote usage of ConTeXt, "force" authors to > publish in nice proceedings, allow grateful users to give back, foster > development of different projects that are relevant for ConTeXt, ... > = > We also need a new webpage design and I hope that registration still > works after being moved to the new server ;) > You are welcome to register. We will let you know as soon as we will > be able to accept the payments. > = > Mojca > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to= the Wiki! > = > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-co= ntext > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________