Achieving the effect of \overset outside math mode

Achieving the effect of \overset outside math mode

[kauśika via ntg-context]

Dear list,

I don't have a MWE per se, but as the title suggests, I want to be able to 
achieve the effect of \overset outside math mode. As I understand, \overset 
itself is implemented using \mathop and \limits. 

Currently to achieve this I have defined some macros using \offset thus :
\define[1]\pabv{\dontleavehmode\offset[width=0em,y=-16pt,x=3pt]{#1}}
Unfortunately, I have to hard code the x values. So I have define several such 
macros with different offsets. Not an elegant solution, but it is what I could 
muster.

So, my objective is to place a smaller piece of text above another larger 
piece of text so that the text above is centered w.r.t the text below.

Please advise.

Thanks,
kauśika


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Re: Achieving the effect of \overset outside math mode

[kauśika via ntg-context]

On Friday, November 12, 2021 8:17:24 AM IST kauśika wrote:
> Dear list,
> 
> I don't have a MWE per se, but as the title suggests, I want to be able to 
> achieve the effect of \overset outside math mode. As I understand, \overset 
> itself is implemented using \mathop and \limits. 
> 
> Currently to achieve this I have defined some macros using \offset thus :
> \define[1]\pabv{\dontleavehmode\offset[width=0em,y=-16pt,x=3pt]{#1}}
> Unfortunately, I have to hard code the x values. So I have define several such 
> macros with different offsets. Not an elegant solution, but it is what I could 
> muster.
> 
> So, my objective is to place a smaller piece of text above another larger 
> piece of text so that the text above is centered w.r.t the text below.
> 
> Please advise.
> 
> Thanks,
> kauśika

I was able to get some working examples using the second answer here:
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/42456/creating-non-math-mode-substitutes-for-overset-and-underset-not-dependent-on-t

But, I was just curious if there is a more elegant ConTeXt specific way to achieve this.

Thanks,
kauśika


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Re: Achieving the effect of \overset outside math mode

[Rik Kabel via ntg-context]

On 2021-11-11 21:47, kauśika via ntg-context wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> I don't have a MWE per se, but as the title suggests, I want to be able to
> achieve the effect of \overset outside math mode. As I understand, \overset
> itself is implemented using \mathop and \limits.
>
> Currently to achieve this I have defined some macros using \offset thus :
> \define[1]\pabv{\dontleavehmode\offset[width=0em,y=-16pt,x=3pt]{#1}}
> Unfortunately, I have to hard code the x values. So I have define several such
> macros with different offsets. Not an elegant solution, but it is what I could
> muster.
>
> So, my objective is to place a smaller piece of text above another larger
> piece of text so that the text above is centered w.r.t the text below.
>
> Please advise.
>
> Thanks,
> kauśika

Search for defineruby on the mailing list archives.

-- 
Rik

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Re: Achieving the effect of \overset outside math mode

[kauśika via ntg-context]

On Friday, November 12, 2021 8:32:17 AM IST Rik Kabel via ntg-context wrote:
> Search for defineruby on the mailing list archives.
> 
> --
> Rik

Dear Rik,

First of all, thank you for the quick response! Wow! With the very first search 
result itself, I was able to achieve what I wanted.

ConTeXt is a gift that keeps on giving! Simply fantastic! This made my day!

Many thanks, 
kauśika


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Re: Achieving the effect of \overset outside math mode

[Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context]

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On Fri, 12 Nov 2021, kauśika via ntg-context wrote:

> Dear list,
> 
> I don't have a MWE per se, but as the title suggests, I want to be able to 
> achieve the effect of \overset outside math mode. As I understand, \overset 
> itself is implemented using \mathop and \limits. 
> 
> Currently to achieve this I have defined some macros using \offset thus :
> \define[1]\pabv{\dontleavehmode\offset[width=0em,y=-16pt,x=3pt]{#1}}
> Unfortunately, I have to hard code the x values. So I have define several such 
> macros with different offsets. Not an elegant solution, but it is what I could 
> muster.
> 
> So, my objective is to place a smaller piece of text above another larger 
> piece of text so that the text above is centered w.r.t the text below.

Wolfgang has a ruby module, which provides this feature.

https://ctan.org/pkg/context-ruby

Doc: https://ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/context/contrib/context-ruby/doc/context/third/ruby

Aditya

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Re: Achieving the effect of \overset outside math mode

[Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context]

Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context schrieb am 12.11.2021 um 05:45:
> On Fri, 12 Nov 2021, kauśika via ntg-context wrote:
>
>> Dear list,
>>
>> I don't have a MWE per se, but as the title suggests, I want to be able to
>> achieve the effect of \overset outside math mode. As I understand, \overset
>> itself is implemented using \mathop and \limits.
>>
>> Currently to achieve this I have defined some macros using \offset thus :
>> \define[1]\pabv{\dontleavehmode\offset[width=0em,y=-16pt,x=3pt]{#1}}
>> Unfortunately, I have to hard code the x values. So I have define several such
>> macros with different offsets. Not an elegant solution, but it is what I could
>> muster.
>>
>> So, my objective is to place a smaller piece of text above another larger
>> piece of text so that the text above is centered w.r.t the text below.
> Wolfgang has a ruby module, which provides this feature.
>
> https://ctan.org/pkg/context-ruby
>
> Doc: https://ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/context/contrib/context-ruby/doc/context/third/ruby

Use the built-in \ruby function, the module broke at some point after 
Hans added a similar function himself and I never fixed my own code 
afterwards.

Wolfgang

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Re: Achieving the effect of \overset outside math mode

[kauśika via ntg-context]

On Friday, November 12, 2021 11:04:20 AM IST Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context 
wrote:
> Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context schrieb am 12.11.2021 um 05:45:
> > On Fri, 12 Nov 2021, kauśika via ntg-context wrote:
> >> Dear list,
> >> 
> >> I don't have a MWE per se, but as the title suggests, I want to be able
> >> to
> >> achieve the effect of \overset outside math mode. As I understand,
> >> \overset
> >> itself is implemented using \mathop and \limits.
> >> 
> >> Currently to achieve this I have defined some macros using \offset thus :
> >> \define[1]\pabv{\dontleavehmode\offset[width=0em,y=-16pt,x=3pt]{#1}}
> >> Unfortunately, I have to hard code the x values. So I have define several
> >> such macros with different offsets. Not an elegant solution, but it is
> >> what I could muster.
> >> 
> >> So, my objective is to place a smaller piece of text above another larger
> >> piece of text so that the text above is centered w.r.t the text below.
> > 
> > Wolfgang has a ruby module, which provides this feature.
> > 
> > https://ctan.org/pkg/context-ruby
> > 
> > Doc:
> > https://ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/context/contrib/context-ruby/doc/cont
> > ext/third/ruby
> Use the built-in \ruby function, the module broke at some point after
> Hans added a similar function himself and I never fixed my own code
> afterwards.
> 
> Wolfgang
> 
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Thanks Aditya and Wolfgang! After following Rik's initial response, I am now 
using the \ruby function in LMTX to achieve this.

Thanks,
kauśika


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Re: Achieving the effect of \overset outside math mode

[kauśika via ntg-context]

On Friday, November 12, 2021 11:04:20 AM IST Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context 
wrote:
> Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context schrieb am 12.11.2021 um 05:45:
> > On Fri, 12 Nov 2021, kauśika via ntg-context wrote:
> >> Dear list,
> >> 
> >> I don't have a MWE per se, but as the title suggests, I want to be able
> >> to
> >> achieve the effect of \overset outside math mode. As I understand,
> >> \overset
> >> itself is implemented using \mathop and \limits.
> >> 
> >> Currently to achieve this I have defined some macros using \offset thus :
> >> \define[1]\pabv{\dontleavehmode\offset[width=0em,y=-16pt,x=3pt]{#1}}
> >> Unfortunately, I have to hard code the x values. So I have define several
> >> such macros with different offsets. Not an elegant solution, but it is
> >> what I could muster.
> >> 
> >> So, my objective is to place a smaller piece of text above another larger
> >> piece of text so that the text above is centered w.r.t the text below.
> > 
> > Wolfgang has a ruby module, which provides this feature.
> > 
> > https://ctan.org/pkg/context-ruby
> > 
> > Doc:
> > https://ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/context/contrib/context-ruby/doc/cont
> > ext/third/ruby
> Use the built-in \ruby function, the module broke at some point after
> Hans added a similar function himself and I never fixed my own code
> afterwards.
> 
> Wolfgang
> 
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Thanks Aditya and Wolfgang! I am now using the \ruby function in LMTX to 
achieve this.

Thanks,
kauśika


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