From: Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: A not so short introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2021 23:59:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <264762BB-EBEE-4BCE-8D7E-D075017DC2D2@fiee.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ee484883-6fa0-bc07-e6cc-1406b0b5ef62@xs4all.nl>
> Am 03.01.2021 um 22:24 schrieb Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>:
>
> On 1/3/2021 10:02 PM, BPJ wrote:
>> I understand that and it is all well and good. I am wondering if there already is *another* text which presupposes basic knowledge of TeX and general knowledge of LaTeX, perhaps in a by-topic style.
> I think this relates to the question how someone comes to tex and then to context. Are tex macro packages used alongside and such? Are there 'from word/office to tex' or reverse manuals? What could be a motivation to write one.
I guess most ConTeXt users migrated from LaTeX at some point, so that guide would really make sense. But I can’t write it either, even if I’m also working with LaTeX (but just as a user of one special class).
If I run into a problem in LaTeX that I know to solve in ConTeXt, the approach is never right.
I think the similarities of LaTeX and ConTeXt are mostly misleading, you’re better off trying to forget everything and start anew.
In LaTeX most problems are solved with “use this or that package”, without the need to understand the commands and settings involved, while in ConTeXt most problems are solved with \setupsomething[somekey=somevalue].
Of course it helps to understand basic TeX stuff – but you’re not supposed to use (plain) TeX commands in LaTeX, while it is or was much more usual in ConTeXt.
Writing my book I have users of text processors (Word/LibreOffice) and layout applications (InDesign etc.) in mind, even if I assume that most readers (if I’ll ever publish it...) will come from LaTeX.
> So, one way out could be to have some collection of tips / suggestions and turn that into a kind of manual. Something to do by those who make some transition or use alongside. The wiki is the place start with that.
>
> So .. up to users.
Yes, and that means: up to users migrating from LaTeX and documenting their struggles.
Hraban
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Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-01-03 9:45 Joaquín Ataz López
2021-01-03 10:32 ` Saša Janiška
2021-01-03 14:37 ` Garulfo
2021-01-03 16:42 ` Mojca Miklavec
2021-01-03 18:08 ` Hans Hagen
2021-01-05 20:31 ` Garulfo
2021-01-06 0:36 ` Bruce Horrocks
2021-01-06 5:26 ` Joaquín Ataz López
2021-01-06 12:08 ` Hans Hagen
2021-07-28 14:33 ` Kevin Vigouroux via ntg-context
2021-07-28 19:11 ` Kevin Vigouroux via ntg-context
2021-01-03 18:56 ` Joaquín Ataz López
2021-01-03 10:40 ` Alain Delmotte
2021-01-03 18:42 ` BPJ
2021-01-03 19:00 ` Joaquín Ataz López
2021-01-03 21:02 ` BPJ
2021-01-03 21:11 ` denis.maier
2021-01-03 21:25 ` Hans Hagen
2021-01-03 21:24 ` Hans Hagen
2021-01-03 22:59 ` Henning Hraban Ramm [this message]
2021-01-04 13:02 ` Migrating from LaTeX (was: A not so short introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV) BPJ
2021-01-04 13:28 ` Taco Hoekwater
2021-01-04 14:21 ` Hans Hagen
2021-01-04 15:54 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2021-01-04 20:19 ` Migrating from LaTeX jbf
2021-01-04 13:18 ` A not so short introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV Ulrike Fischer
2021-01-04 14:30 ` Hans Hagen
2021-01-04 14:53 ` Ulrike Fischer
2021-01-04 16:32 ` Joaquín Ataz López
2021-01-05 9:04 ` Hans Hagen
2021-01-04 16:02 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2021-01-04 16:13 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2021-01-06 7:17 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-01-03 21:27 ` denis.maier
2021-01-04 16:44 ` Aditya Mahajan
2021-01-08 13:01 ` Robert Zydenbos
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